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Dr. Oppenheimer.

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Dr. Oppenheimer.

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As we begin, I believe you have

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a statement to read
into the record.

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Yes, Your Honor.

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We're not judges, Doctor.

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No.

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Of course.

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Members of the security board,

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the so-called
derogatory information

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in your indictment of me
cannot be fairly understood,

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except in the context
of my life and my work.

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How long did he testify?

14
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Honestly, I forget.

15
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The whole hearing took a month.

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An ordeal, hmm?

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Well, I've only
read the transcripts.

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Who'd want to justify
their whole life?

19
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You weren't there?

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As chairman,
I wasn't allowed to be.

21
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Are they really
going to ask about it?

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-It was years ago.
-Four years ago...

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Five.

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Oppenheimer
still divides America.

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The committee is gonna want
to know where you stood.

26
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Senator Thurmond asked me to say

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not to feel that
you're on trial.

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Oh, funny, I didn't
till you just said that.

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-Really, Mr. Strauss...
-It's Admiral.

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Um, Admiral Strauss.
This is a formality.

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President Eisenhower has asked
you to be in his cabinet.

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Senate really has no choice
but to confirm you.

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And if they bring up
Oppenheimer?

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When they bring up Oppenheimer,
you answer honestly.

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No senator can deny
you did your duty.

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It'll be uncomfortable.

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Who'd want to justify
their whole life?

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Why did you leave
the United States?

39
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I, uh... I wanted to study
the new physics.

40
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Was there nowhere here?

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I thought Berkeley
had the leading

42
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theoretical physics department.

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Yes. Once I built it.

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But first I had to go to Europe.

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I went to Cambridge to study
under Patrick Blackett.

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Were you happier there
than in America?

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-Happier?
-Yes.

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No. No, I, uh...

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<i>I was homesick, um...</i>

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...emotionally immature...

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<i>...troubled by visions</i>
<i>of a hidden universe.</i>

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Useless in the lab.

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Christ, Oppenheimer.

54
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Have you had any sleep?

55
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Start again.

56
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I need to go
to the lecture, sir.

57
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Why?

58
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It's Niels Bohr.

59
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Damn, completely forgot.

60
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All right.
Let's go.

61
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Oh, no, not you, Oppenheimer.

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You finish coating those plates.

63
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You see them?

64
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Don't forget to clean up!

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<i>Quantum physics</i>
<i>is not a step forward,</i>

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it is a new way
to understand reality.

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Einstein's opened the door,
now we are peering through,

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seeing a world inside our world.

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A world of energy and paradox
that not everyone can accept.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Are you all right?

72
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Niels, meet
J. Robert Oppenheimer.

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What's the "J" stand for?

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Nothing, apparently.

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You were at my lecture.

76
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You asked
the only good question.

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No one's denying his insight.

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It's his laboratory work that
leaves a little to be desired.

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I heard
you give the same lecture...

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At Harvard, yes, and you
asked the same question.

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Why ask again?

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Hadn't liked your answer.

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Did you like it better
yesterday?

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A lot.

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You can lift the stone
without being ready

86
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for the snake that's revealed.

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Now it seems you're ready.

88
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But you don't enjoy the lab?

89
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So get out of Cambridge
with its beakers and potions.

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Go somewhere they let you think.

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Where?

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Göttingen.

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-Born?
-Born.

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Get to Germany,
study under Max Born.

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Learn the ways of theory.

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I'll send word.

97
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Wormhole.

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How's your mathematics?

99
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Not good enough for
the physicist he wants to be.

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Algebra's like sheet music.

101
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The important thing isn't
"Can you read music?"

102
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It's "Can you hear it?"

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Can you hear the music, Robert?

104
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Yes, I can.

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The senator from Wyoming.

106
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Admiral Strauss, I'm interested
in your relationship

107
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with Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.

108
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You met him in 1947?

109
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Correct.

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You were commissioner

111
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of the Atomic Energy Commission?

112
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I was, but I-I actually
met Robert in my capacity

113
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as board member of the
Institute for Advanced Study

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at Princeton because

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after the war,
he was world-renowned

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as the great man of physics,
and I was determined

117
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to get him to run the Institute.

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Dr. Oppenheimer. An honor.

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Mr. Strauss.

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It's pronounced "straws."

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Oh-ppenheimer, Oppenheimer.

122
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Whatever way you say it,
they know I'm Jewish.

123
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I'm president of Temple Emanu-El
in Manhattan.

124
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"Straws" is just
the Southern pronunciation.

125
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-Ah.
-Anyway,

126
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welcome to the Institute.

127
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I think you could be
very happy here.

128
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Yes, well,
you'll love the commute.

129
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The position comes
with that house

130
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for you and your wife

131
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and your, is it two children?

132
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Yes, two.

133
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I'm a great admirer
of your work.

134
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And you're a physicist
by training, Mr. Strauss?

135
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I'm sorry, uh,
common room 4:00 tea.

136
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No, I'm not trained in physics
or anything else.

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-I'm a self-made man.
-Ah.

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-I can relate to that.
-Really?

139
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Yes, my father was one.

140
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And this would be your office.

141
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I'm told he's there
most afternoons.

142
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You know, I've always wondered

143
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why you didn't involve him
in the Manhattan Project.

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Greatest scientific mind
of our time.

145
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Of his time.

146
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Einstein published
his Theory of Relativity

147
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more than 40 years ago now.

148
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But never embraced
the quantum world it revealed.

149
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"God doesn't play dice."

150
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Precisely.

151
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You never thought of studying
physics formally, Mr. Strauss?

152
00:11:05,285 --> 00:11:07,655
Well, I had offers,
but I chose to sell shoes.

153
00:11:07,688 --> 00:11:11,191
Lewis Strauss was once
a lowly shoe salesman.

154
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No, just a shoe salesman.

155
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Huh.

156
00:11:17,431 --> 00:11:20,200
-I'd love to introduce you.
-No need.

157
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I have known him for years.

158
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Albert.

159
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What was that?
What did you say to him?

160
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Oh, he's fine.

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Mr. Strauss,
there are things in my past

162
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you ought to be aware of.

163
00:12:04,412 --> 00:12:06,314
Well, as chairman of the AEC,

164
00:12:06,347 --> 00:12:07,816
I have access
to your security file.

165
00:12:07,849 --> 00:12:08,850
I've read it.

166
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-You're not worried?
-No.

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Why would I be worried
after everything

168
00:12:11,886 --> 00:12:13,354
you've done for your country?

169
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Well, times change, Mr. Strauss.

170
00:12:14,889 --> 00:12:16,725
Well, the purpose
of this institute

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is to provide a haven
for independent minds.

172
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That's you.
You are the man for the job.

173
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Well, then I'll consider it.

174
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I'll see you
at the AEC meeting tomorrow.

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This is one
of the most prestigious

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appointments in the country.

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Yes, with a great commute.

178
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That's why I'm considering it.

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<i>So, Dr. Oppenheimer brought</i>

180
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<i>your attention</i>
<i>to his past associations</i>

181
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<i>before you appointed him?</i>

182
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Yes.

183
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And it didn't concern you?

184
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Just then,
I was entirely consumed

185
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with what he must have said
to Einstein to sour him on me.

186
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But later?

187
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Well, we all know
what happened later.

188
00:13:01,536 --> 00:13:03,905
Doctor, your, uh...
your time in Europe,

189
00:13:03,938 --> 00:13:05,507
you seemed to meet
with a wide range

190
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of other countries' physicists.

191
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Yes, that's right.

192
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Any Russians?

193
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None that spring to mind.

194
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If you'll just allow me to
continue with my statement...

195
00:13:15,784 --> 00:13:18,753
Mr. Robb, you'll have ample
opportunity to cross-examine.

196
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After Göttingen,
I moved on to Leiden in Holland

197
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<i>where I first met Isidor Rabi.</i>

198
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Excuse me.

199
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A Yank,
lecturing on the new physics?

200
00:13:35,837 --> 00:13:36,905
This I have to hear.

201
00:13:36,938 --> 00:13:38,973
I'm an American myself.

202
00:13:39,008 --> 00:13:40,508
How surprising.

203
00:13:40,542 --> 00:13:41,609
Um...

204
00:13:41,643 --> 00:13:43,912
Let me know if you need
any help with the English.

205
00:13:57,892 --> 00:13:59,861
Wait, what's he saying?

206
00:14:10,405 --> 00:14:11,439
No, thank you.

207
00:14:11,472 --> 00:14:13,441
It's a long way to Zurich.

208
00:14:13,474 --> 00:14:15,110
You get any skinnier,
we're gonna lose you

209
00:14:15,144 --> 00:14:16,979
between the seat cushions.

210
00:14:17,013 --> 00:14:18,048
I'm Rabi.

211
00:14:18,081 --> 00:14:19,448
Oppenheimer.

212
00:14:19,481 --> 00:14:21,517
I caught your lecture
on molecules.

213
00:14:21,550 --> 00:14:22,685
Caught some of it.

214
00:14:23,819 --> 00:14:25,988
We're a couple of New York Jews.
How do you know Dutch?

215
00:14:26,022 --> 00:14:27,590
Well, I thought
I'd better learn it

216
00:14:27,623 --> 00:14:28,791
when I got here this semester.

217
00:14:28,824 --> 00:14:30,426
You learned enough Dutch
in six weeks

218
00:14:30,459 --> 00:14:32,162
to give a lecture
on quantum mechanics?

219
00:14:32,195 --> 00:14:33,696
Wanted to challenge myself.

220
00:14:33,729 --> 00:14:36,099
Quantum physics wasn't
challenging enough.

221
00:14:36,132 --> 00:14:37,867
<i>-Schvitzer.</i>
<i>-Schvitzer?</i>

222
00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:39,802
Show-off.

223
00:14:39,835 --> 00:14:41,670
Dutch in six weeks,
but you never learned Yiddish?

224
00:14:41,704 --> 00:14:43,772
They don't speak it so much
my side of the park.

225
00:14:43,806 --> 00:14:44,874
Screw you.

226
00:14:45,975 --> 00:14:47,476
You homesick?

227
00:14:47,509 --> 00:14:48,911
Oh, you know it.

228
00:14:49,879 --> 00:14:52,882
Ever get the feeling our kind
isn't entirely welcome here?

229
00:14:52,915 --> 00:14:53,983
Physicists?

230
00:14:54,017 --> 00:14:55,517
'S funny.

231
00:14:55,551 --> 00:14:57,620
Not in the department.

232
00:14:57,653 --> 00:14:58,954
They're all Jewish too.

233
00:15:01,057 --> 00:15:02,458
Eat.

234
00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,896
There's a German
you have to seek out.

235
00:15:07,930 --> 00:15:10,466
-Heisenberg.
-Right.

236
00:15:19,642 --> 00:15:21,144
One might be led
to the presumption

237
00:15:21,177 --> 00:15:23,646
that behind the quantum world,

238
00:15:23,679 --> 00:15:27,549
there still hides a real world
in which causality holds,

239
00:15:27,583 --> 00:15:29,785
but such speculation seem to us,

240
00:15:29,818 --> 00:15:32,554
to say it explicitly, fruitless.
Thank you.

241
00:15:32,588 --> 00:15:34,024
Have a great day.

242
00:15:39,229 --> 00:15:40,930
-Wonderful.
-Thank you.

243
00:15:40,963 --> 00:15:42,198
Dr. Oppenheimer.

244
00:15:42,232 --> 00:15:44,167
Oppenheimer, yes.

245
00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,069
I liked your paper on molecules.

246
00:15:46,102 --> 00:15:47,603
Probably because
you inspired it.

247
00:15:47,636 --> 00:15:49,139
If I inspire anything else,
let me know.

248
00:15:49,172 --> 00:15:50,206
We could publish together.

249
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,075
I have to get back to America.

250
00:15:52,108 --> 00:15:53,842
Why? There's no one there

251
00:15:53,876 --> 00:15:56,079
taking quantum mechanics
seriously.

252
00:15:56,112 --> 00:15:57,713
That's exactly why.

253
00:15:57,746 --> 00:16:00,183
He's pining for the canyons
of Manhattan.

254
00:16:00,216 --> 00:16:02,651
Canyons of New Mexico.

255
00:16:02,685 --> 00:16:03,819
-You're from New Mexico?
-No.

256
00:16:03,852 --> 00:16:05,955
New York, but my brother
and I have a ranch

257
00:16:05,988 --> 00:16:08,091
outside Santa Fe.

258
00:16:08,124 --> 00:16:10,492
That's the America
I miss right now.

259
00:16:10,526 --> 00:16:12,594
Then it's best you get home,
cowboys.

260
00:16:12,628 --> 00:16:14,230
That's him.

261
00:16:14,264 --> 00:16:17,700
No, me and horses.
I don't think so.

262
00:16:17,733 --> 00:16:19,868
Nice to meet you.

263
00:16:21,603 --> 00:16:23,739
Did you ever encounter
Heisenberg again?

264
00:16:23,772 --> 00:16:26,675
Not in person, no, but, uh...

265
00:16:27,910 --> 00:16:30,013
...you might say
our paths crossed.

266
00:16:31,580 --> 00:16:33,782
On returning to America,
I accepted positions

267
00:16:33,816 --> 00:16:36,552
at both Caltech
and up at Berkeley.

268
00:16:40,257 --> 00:16:41,891
I got it, it's all right.

269
00:17:00,610 --> 00:17:02,645
Dr. Lawrence, I presume?

270
00:17:04,048 --> 00:17:05,282
You must be Oppenheimer.

271
00:17:05,316 --> 00:17:06,850
Yes.

272
00:17:06,883 --> 00:17:09,220
I hear you want to start
a school of quantum theory.

273
00:17:09,253 --> 00:17:10,920
I am starting it. Next door.

274
00:17:10,954 --> 00:17:12,789
-They put you in there?
-I asked for it.

275
00:17:12,822 --> 00:17:14,891
Wanted to be close
to you experimentalists.

276
00:17:14,924 --> 00:17:17,294
Theory will get you
only so far, huh?

277
00:17:17,328 --> 00:17:19,296
We're building a machine
to accelerate electrons.

278
00:17:19,330 --> 00:17:22,033
-Magnificent.
-Would you like to help?

279
00:17:22,066 --> 00:17:23,900
Build it? Oh, no.

280
00:17:23,933 --> 00:17:25,036
No, no.

281
00:17:25,069 --> 00:17:27,637
But I am working on theories
I'd like to test with it.

282
00:17:27,670 --> 00:17:28,671
When do you start teaching?

283
00:17:28,705 --> 00:17:30,573
I've got my first in an hour.

284
00:17:30,607 --> 00:17:32,609
-Seminar?
-Pupil.

285
00:17:32,642 --> 00:17:35,879
One student? That's it?

286
00:17:35,912 --> 00:17:38,648
I'm teaching something
no one here has dreamt of.

287
00:17:38,681 --> 00:17:40,683
But once people start hearing
what you can do with it...

288
00:17:40,717 --> 00:17:42,186
There's no going back.

289
00:17:44,355 --> 00:17:46,656
-Oh. I must have missed the...
-Ah. Lo...

290
00:17:46,689 --> 00:17:48,691
-Mr. Lomanitz?
-Na.

291
00:17:49,893 --> 00:17:50,794
Yeah.

292
00:17:50,827 --> 00:17:52,929
Yes, this is it. Please.

293
00:17:52,962 --> 00:17:54,031
Take a seat.

294
00:17:58,902 --> 00:18:00,703
What do you know
about quantum mechanics?

295
00:18:00,737 --> 00:18:03,107
I have a grasp on the basics.

296
00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:04,707
Then you're doing it wrong.

297
00:18:05,942 --> 00:18:08,212
Is light made up
of particles or waves?

298
00:18:08,245 --> 00:18:09,380
Quantum mechanics
says it's both.

299
00:18:09,413 --> 00:18:11,015
How could it be both?

300
00:18:11,048 --> 00:18:12,949
-It can't.
-It can't.

301
00:18:12,982 --> 00:18:17,854
But it is. It's paradoxical,
and yet, it works.

302
00:18:24,995 --> 00:18:25,996
Now.

303
00:18:27,864 --> 00:18:29,833
Thank you.

304
00:18:29,866 --> 00:18:32,869
Mr. Lomanitz.
You're gonna be okay.

305
00:18:32,902 --> 00:18:34,271
Mr. Snyder.

306
00:18:34,305 --> 00:18:35,839
Now let's consider a star.

307
00:18:35,872 --> 00:18:39,410
A star. A vast furnace
burning in outer space,

308
00:18:39,443 --> 00:18:42,846
fire pushing outwards
against its own gravity.

309
00:18:42,879 --> 00:18:44,315
Balanced.

310
00:18:44,348 --> 00:18:46,649
But if that furnace cools...

311
00:18:48,018 --> 00:18:50,020
...and gravity starts winning,
it contracts.

312
00:18:51,021 --> 00:18:51,988
Density increases.

313
00:18:52,022 --> 00:18:53,224
Correct.

314
00:18:53,257 --> 00:18:54,425
Increasing gravity.

315
00:18:54,458 --> 00:18:55,959
Increasing density.

316
00:18:55,993 --> 00:18:58,129
-And?
-It's a vicious cycle until...

317
00:18:58,162 --> 00:18:59,797
what's the limit here?

318
00:19:00,965 --> 00:19:03,201
I don't know.
See where the math takes us.

319
00:19:03,235 --> 00:19:05,003
I guarantee it's somewhere
no one's been before.

320
00:19:05,036 --> 00:19:06,937
Me?

321
00:19:06,971 --> 00:19:09,141
Yes, you.
Your math is better than mine.

322
00:19:10,875 --> 00:19:12,977
<i>Dr. Oppenheimer's file</i>

323
00:19:13,011 --> 00:19:15,413
<i>contained detail</i>
<i>of his activities in Berkeley.</i>

324
00:19:15,447 --> 00:19:16,914
Why would they have
started a file

325
00:19:16,947 --> 00:19:19,884
on Dr. Oppenheimer
before the war?

326
00:19:19,917 --> 00:19:22,387
Well, you'd have
to ask Mr. Hoover.

327
00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:24,289
I'm asking you, Admiral Strauss.

328
00:19:24,322 --> 00:19:27,259
Uh, my assumption is that

329
00:19:27,292 --> 00:19:30,428
it was connected to his, uh,

330
00:19:30,462 --> 00:19:32,998
left-wing political activities.

331
00:19:34,099 --> 00:19:35,766
You shouldn't
let them bring up politics

332
00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:37,135
in the classroom, Oppie.

333
00:19:37,169 --> 00:19:38,903
I wrote that.

334
00:19:38,936 --> 00:19:42,207
Lawrence, you embrace
the revolution in physics.

335
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,042
Can't you see it
everywhere else?

336
00:19:44,075 --> 00:19:46,178
Picasso, Stravinsky,
Freud, Marx.

337
00:19:46,211 --> 00:19:47,811
Well, this is America, Oppie.

338
00:19:47,845 --> 00:19:49,214
We had our revolution.

339
00:19:50,348 --> 00:19:52,850
Seriously,
keep it out of the lab.

340
00:19:52,883 --> 00:19:55,986
Well, out of the lab,
my landlady

341
00:19:56,021 --> 00:19:58,822
is having a discussion group
tonight. Interested?

342
00:19:58,856 --> 00:20:00,925
I have sampled
the Berkeley political scene.

343
00:20:00,958 --> 00:20:02,994
It's all just
philosophy post-grads

344
00:20:03,028 --> 00:20:05,330
and Communists
talking integration.

345
00:20:05,363 --> 00:20:07,032
You don't care
about integration.

346
00:20:07,065 --> 00:20:08,933
I want to vote for it,
not talk about it.

347
00:20:08,966 --> 00:20:10,968
'Specially on a Friday.
Come on, let's eat.

348
00:20:11,002 --> 00:20:13,338
I'm meeting my brother there.

349
00:20:13,371 --> 00:20:15,240
<i>And how would these activities</i>

350
00:20:15,273 --> 00:20:16,408
<i>have come to the attention</i>

351
00:20:16,441 --> 00:20:17,442
of the FBI?

352
00:20:17,475 --> 00:20:19,444
Well, if I remember correctly,

353
00:20:19,477 --> 00:20:21,413
the FBI was taking
license plates

354
00:20:21,446 --> 00:20:23,781
outside suspected
Communist gatherings,

355
00:20:23,814 --> 00:20:25,816
<i>and his name popped up.</i>

356
00:20:33,391 --> 00:20:34,925
-Gotcha!
-Jesus Christ.

357
00:20:34,959 --> 00:20:37,262
-Sorry. Hi, brother.
-Frank.

358
00:20:38,263 --> 00:20:39,998
Uh, you remember Jackie.

359
00:20:40,031 --> 00:20:41,499
Evening.

360
00:20:41,533 --> 00:20:43,501
Let's go. Come.

361
00:20:43,535 --> 00:20:46,104
Right over there,
right over there.

362
00:20:47,038 --> 00:20:50,041
Robert. I want you
to meet Chevalier.

363
00:20:50,075 --> 00:20:53,777
Dr. Haakon Chevalier,
Dr. Robert Oppenheimer.

364
00:20:53,811 --> 00:20:54,979
-Pleasure.
-Pleasure.

365
00:20:55,013 --> 00:20:56,314
This is my little brother,
Frank.

366
00:20:56,348 --> 00:20:57,549
-And this is...
-Hello.

367
00:20:57,582 --> 00:20:59,517
-Still Jackie.
-Hello, Still Jackie.

368
00:20:59,551 --> 00:21:01,519
Chevalier, you're in languages?

369
00:21:01,553 --> 00:21:03,288
And your reputation
precedes you.

370
00:21:03,321 --> 00:21:05,056
-What have you heard?
-Excuse me.

371
00:21:05,090 --> 00:21:06,857
That you're teaching a radical
new approach to physics

372
00:21:06,890 --> 00:21:08,126
I have no chance
of understanding,

373
00:21:08,159 --> 00:21:09,527
but I hadn't heard
you're a Party member.

374
00:21:09,561 --> 00:21:11,862
-Uh, I'm not.
-Oh, not yet.

375
00:21:11,895 --> 00:21:13,864
Frank and I are thinking of
joining. Just the other day,

376
00:21:13,897 --> 00:21:15,533
-I was saying...
-I support a range of causes.

377
00:21:15,567 --> 00:21:17,202
The Spanish Civil War?

378
00:21:17,235 --> 00:21:18,969
A democratic republic
being overthrown

379
00:21:19,004 --> 00:21:20,305
by fascist thugs, who wouldn't?

380
00:21:20,338 --> 00:21:22,008
Our government.

381
00:21:22,041 --> 00:21:23,509
They think that socialism is
a bigger threat than fascism.

382
00:21:23,542 --> 00:21:25,044
Not for long.

383
00:21:25,077 --> 00:21:26,878
Look at what the Nazis
are doing to the Jews.

384
00:21:26,911 --> 00:21:29,482
I send funds to colleagues
in Germany to emigrate.

385
00:21:29,515 --> 00:21:31,550
I have to do something.

386
00:21:31,584 --> 00:21:34,953
My own work is so abstract.

387
00:21:34,986 --> 00:21:36,555
What are you working on?

388
00:21:36,589 --> 00:21:38,524
What happens to the stars
when they die.

389
00:21:38,557 --> 00:21:39,991
Do stars die?

390
00:21:41,193 --> 00:21:42,495
Well, if they do,

391
00:21:42,528 --> 00:21:44,430
they'd cool, then collapse.

392
00:21:44,463 --> 00:21:47,099
In fact, the bigger the star,

393
00:21:47,133 --> 00:21:49,834
<i>the more violent its demise.</i>

394
00:21:49,868 --> 00:21:51,404
The gravity gets so concentrated

395
00:21:51,437 --> 00:21:54,407
it swallows everything.

396
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,408
Everything, even light.

397
00:21:55,441 --> 00:21:56,609
Can that really happen?

398
00:21:56,642 --> 00:21:58,444
The math says it can.

399
00:21:58,477 --> 00:21:59,911
If we can get published,

400
00:21:59,944 --> 00:22:01,514
then perhaps one day,
an astronomer finds one.

401
00:22:01,547 --> 00:22:03,282
But right now,
all I have is theory,

402
00:22:03,316 --> 00:22:05,184
which can't impact
people's lives.

403
00:22:05,217 --> 00:22:07,486
Well, if you're going
to send money to Spain,

404
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,088
do it through
the Communist Party.

405
00:22:09,121 --> 00:22:10,456
They can get it
to the front lines.

406
00:22:10,489 --> 00:22:12,891
Mary sent me with these.

407
00:22:13,592 --> 00:22:16,395
-I'm Jean.
-Robert.

408
00:22:16,429 --> 00:22:17,929
Haakon Chevalier.

409
00:22:17,962 --> 00:22:19,498
The union meeting at Serber's
last month?

410
00:22:19,532 --> 00:22:20,932
Right, right, yes.

411
00:22:20,965 --> 00:22:22,335
Oh, thank you.

412
00:22:22,368 --> 00:22:24,603
Robert here says
he's not a Communist.

413
00:22:24,637 --> 00:22:26,938
Well, then he doesn't know
enough about it.

414
00:22:26,971 --> 00:22:29,342
Oh, I've read <i>Das Kapital,</i>
all three volumes.

415
00:22:29,375 --> 00:22:31,010
Does that count?

416
00:22:31,043 --> 00:22:33,012
It would make you better read
than most party members.

417
00:22:33,045 --> 00:22:35,348
Turgid stuff.
There's some thinking, um,

418
00:22:35,381 --> 00:22:36,549
"Ownership is theft."

419
00:22:36,582 --> 00:22:38,484
-"Property."
-"Property"?

420
00:22:38,517 --> 00:22:40,319
"Property," not "ownership."

421
00:22:40,353 --> 00:22:42,388
I'm sorry, I read it
in the original German.

422
00:22:42,421 --> 00:22:45,091
Well.

423
00:22:45,957 --> 00:22:47,326
It's not about the book.

424
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:50,363
It's about the ideas.
And you sound uncommitted.

425
00:22:50,396 --> 00:22:52,031
Well, I'm committed
to thinking freely

426
00:22:52,064 --> 00:22:54,500
about how to improve our world.

427
00:22:54,533 --> 00:22:56,635
Why limit yourself to one dogma?

428
00:22:56,669 --> 00:22:59,638
You're a physicist,
you pick and choose rules?

429
00:22:59,672 --> 00:23:01,240
Or do you use the discipline

430
00:23:01,273 --> 00:23:03,409
to channel your energies
into progress?

431
00:23:03,442 --> 00:23:05,845
I like a little wiggle room.

432
00:23:06,945 --> 00:23:09,148
Do you always
tow the party line?

433
00:23:10,516 --> 00:23:12,284
I like my wiggle room too.

434
00:23:22,428 --> 00:23:24,963
What?

435
00:23:24,997 --> 00:23:26,165
Wait, wait, wait.

436
00:23:30,069 --> 00:23:31,670
Unexpected.

437
00:23:31,704 --> 00:23:33,606
-What?
-For a physicist.

438
00:23:33,639 --> 00:23:36,409
You only have a shelf
full of Freud?

439
00:23:36,442 --> 00:23:39,311
Well, actually,
my background's more...

440
00:23:39,345 --> 00:23:41,180
Uh, Jungian?

441
00:23:42,315 --> 00:23:43,417
You know analysis?

442
00:23:43,450 --> 00:23:45,985
When I was in post-grad
at Cambridge,

443
00:23:46,019 --> 00:23:47,320
I had a little trouble.

444
00:23:48,321 --> 00:23:51,057
-I'll bite.
-I tried to poison my tutor.

445
00:23:51,091 --> 00:23:52,092
Did you hate him?

446
00:23:52,125 --> 00:23:53,593
I liked him very much.

447
00:23:53,627 --> 00:23:55,529
You just needed to get laid.

448
00:23:55,562 --> 00:23:57,130
Took my analyst two years,

449
00:23:57,164 --> 00:23:59,099
and I don't think they
ever put it that succinctly.

450
00:23:59,132 --> 00:24:00,467
You have everyone convinced

451
00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:03,236
you're more complicated
than you actually are.

452
00:24:03,270 --> 00:24:05,272
We're all simple souls, I guess.

453
00:24:05,305 --> 00:24:06,473
I'm not.

454
00:24:09,342 --> 00:24:10,377
What's this?

455
00:24:10,410 --> 00:24:11,977
Sanskrit.

456
00:24:12,012 --> 00:24:13,313
You can read this?

457
00:24:13,346 --> 00:24:15,148
I'm learning.

458
00:24:19,352 --> 00:24:21,154
Read this.

459
00:24:22,589 --> 00:24:24,224
Well, in this part,

460
00:24:24,257 --> 00:24:26,460
Vishnu reveals
his multi-armed self...

461
00:24:26,493 --> 00:24:27,494
No.

462
00:24:28,562 --> 00:24:30,430
Read the words.

463
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,969
"And now I am become Death.

464
00:24:42,409 --> 00:24:44,144
Destroyer of worlds."

465
00:25:15,075 --> 00:25:16,409
This'll do.

466
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:24,150
It'll break before dawn.

467
00:25:24,184 --> 00:25:27,554
Air cools overnight,
just before dawn, it breaks.

468
00:25:30,223 --> 00:25:32,158
Come.

469
00:25:38,198 --> 00:25:41,668
Ah. So, I'm getting married.

470
00:25:41,701 --> 00:25:43,303
-Frank. Congratulations!
-Thank you.

471
00:25:43,336 --> 00:25:45,138
-Thank you.
-To Jackie?

472
00:25:45,171 --> 00:25:47,541
Yeah, to Jackie.

473
00:25:47,574 --> 00:25:48,675
The waitress.

474
00:25:48,708 --> 00:25:50,677
Oppie, you're right.
It's lettin' up.

475
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:53,146
I'm gonna go see
if there's any stars.

476
00:25:53,179 --> 00:25:55,215
All your talk
about the common man,

477
00:25:55,248 --> 00:25:56,750
but Jackie's not good enough
for you, hmm?

478
00:25:56,783 --> 00:25:57,817
Mm-mm.

479
00:25:57,851 --> 00:25:59,352
We join the Party and you can't

480
00:25:59,386 --> 00:26:01,154
-hide your disapproval. Why?
-Oh, now, I...

481
00:26:01,187 --> 00:26:02,255
Is that because that's
supposed to be your thing?

482
00:26:02,289 --> 00:26:03,824
I haven't joined
the Party, Frank.

483
00:26:03,858 --> 00:26:06,394
And I don't think she should
have convinced you to either.

484
00:26:06,427 --> 00:26:08,162
Half of the faculty
is Communist.

485
00:26:08,195 --> 00:26:09,263
Not that half.

486
00:26:10,598 --> 00:26:13,334
I'm your brother, Frank,
and I want you to be cautious.

487
00:26:13,367 --> 00:26:15,069
And I want to wring your neck.

488
00:26:17,471 --> 00:26:20,374
I won't live my life
afraid to make a mistake.

489
00:26:22,243 --> 00:26:25,580
You're happy, I'm happy.

490
00:26:25,613 --> 00:26:27,148
So then I'm happy you're happy

491
00:26:27,181 --> 00:26:28,516
that I'm happy.

492
00:26:32,787 --> 00:26:34,388
I feel like I could see

493
00:26:34,422 --> 00:26:36,524
one of those dark stars
that you're working on.

494
00:26:36,557 --> 00:26:39,126
You can't.
That's the whole point.

495
00:26:39,794 --> 00:26:41,495
Their gravity swallows light.

496
00:26:42,763 --> 00:26:45,833
It's like a kind of
hole in space.

497
00:26:45,866 --> 00:26:47,201
Is Frank okay?

498
00:26:47,234 --> 00:26:49,637
Yes. He just has
a shitty brother.

499
00:26:50,771 --> 00:26:52,440
It is special here.

500
00:26:54,809 --> 00:26:57,278
When I was a kid,

501
00:26:57,311 --> 00:27:00,348
I thought if I could find a way

502
00:27:00,381 --> 00:27:04,752
to combine physics
and New Mexico,

503
00:27:04,785 --> 00:27:07,321
my life would be perfect.

504
00:27:08,389 --> 00:27:09,657
Little remote for that.

505
00:27:09,690 --> 00:27:10,825
Yes.

506
00:27:10,858 --> 00:27:12,526
Let's get some sleep.

507
00:27:13,494 --> 00:27:14,895
That mesa we saw today,

508
00:27:14,929 --> 00:27:17,431
one of my favorite places
in the world.

509
00:27:18,265 --> 00:27:19,734
And tomorrow we'll climb it.

510
00:27:19,767 --> 00:27:21,202
What's it called?

511
00:27:22,236 --> 00:27:24,305
Los Alamos.

512
00:27:27,408 --> 00:27:29,410
I didn't expect
to see you today.

513
00:27:30,578 --> 00:27:32,413
Do I have to make
an appointment?

514
00:27:34,348 --> 00:27:36,484
Hey! Hey, get back here!

515
00:27:36,517 --> 00:27:37,652
Alvarez?

516
00:27:43,424 --> 00:27:46,260
Oppie! Oppie!

517
00:27:46,293 --> 00:27:48,295
What? What is it?

518
00:27:48,329 --> 00:27:49,930
They've done it.
They've done it.

519
00:27:49,964 --> 00:27:51,232
Hahn and Strassmann in Germany.

520
00:27:51,265 --> 00:27:53,434
They split the uranium nucleus.

521
00:27:54,301 --> 00:27:56,170
How?

522
00:27:56,904 --> 00:27:58,806
Bombard it with neutrons.

523
00:27:58,839 --> 00:27:59,974
It's a nuclear fission.

524
00:28:00,008 --> 00:28:01,642
They did it,
they split the atom.

525
00:28:01,676 --> 00:28:03,244
It's not possible.

526
00:28:09,383 --> 00:28:11,185
I'm gonna try to reproduce it.

527
00:28:17,825 --> 00:28:19,760
See? Can't be done.

528
00:28:20,861 --> 00:28:24,265
Very elegant. Quite clear.

529
00:28:24,298 --> 00:28:26,935
-There's just one problem.
-Where?

530
00:28:26,968 --> 00:28:28,770
Next door.

531
00:28:28,804 --> 00:28:30,739
Alvarez did it.

532
00:28:30,772 --> 00:28:32,908
But then look...

533
00:28:32,941 --> 00:28:36,278
...these fission pulses,
they're massive.

534
00:28:36,311 --> 00:28:39,581
I've seen 30 of these
in the past ten minutes.

535
00:28:39,614 --> 00:28:42,451
Theory will take you
only so far.

536
00:28:43,952 --> 00:28:45,954
During the process...

537
00:28:45,987 --> 00:28:47,723
extra neutrons boil off,

538
00:28:47,756 --> 00:28:50,926
which could be used to split
other uranium atoms.

539
00:28:50,959 --> 00:28:52,360
Chain reaction.

540
00:28:52,394 --> 00:28:54,030
You're thinkin'
what I'm thinkin'.

541
00:28:54,063 --> 00:28:56,832
You, me, and every other
physicist around the world

542
00:28:56,865 --> 00:28:58,366
who's seen the news.

543
00:28:59,068 --> 00:29:00,869
I'm... what?
What are we all thinking?

544
00:29:00,902 --> 00:29:04,673
A bomb, Alvarez.

545
00:29:05,841 --> 00:29:07,542
A bomb.

546
00:29:07,576 --> 00:29:10,779
I told you, Robert,
no more fucking flowers.

547
00:29:12,380 --> 00:29:13,915
I don't understand
what you want from me.

548
00:29:13,949 --> 00:29:15,717
I don't want anything from you.

549
00:29:16,718 --> 00:29:18,754
Well, you say that
and then you call.

550
00:29:18,787 --> 00:29:21,389
Well, don't answer.

551
00:29:21,423 --> 00:29:23,425
I'll always answer.

552
00:29:28,697 --> 00:29:29,631
Fine.

553
00:29:29,664 --> 00:29:32,367
Just no more flowers.

554
00:29:33,401 --> 00:29:34,770
You're not coming?

555
00:29:35,937 --> 00:29:38,740
You have to know
when you're beaten, Robert.

556
00:29:41,043 --> 00:29:42,778
It's not that simple, Hoke.

557
00:29:42,811 --> 00:29:44,980
Chevalier,
good to see you. It's...

558
00:29:45,014 --> 00:29:46,348
Ah, Barbara, good to see you

559
00:29:46,381 --> 00:29:48,850
and the illustrious
Dr. Oppenheimer.

560
00:29:48,884 --> 00:29:50,052
I'm Eltenton.

561
00:29:50,086 --> 00:29:51,453
-Oh, pleasure.
-Please, please.

562
00:29:51,486 --> 00:29:52,654
Now, might you say a word

563
00:29:52,687 --> 00:29:55,423
about organized labor
on campuses, yes?

564
00:29:55,457 --> 00:29:56,992
Coming through! Coming through!

565
00:29:57,026 --> 00:29:58,593
-F.A.E.C.T.!
-I work at Shell.

566
00:29:58,627 --> 00:30:00,629
We've signed up chemists,
we've signed up engineers,

567
00:30:00,662 --> 00:30:02,531
so why not scientists
in academia?

568
00:30:02,564 --> 00:30:05,467
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

569
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:08,770
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

570
00:30:08,804 --> 00:30:10,438
Oppie! Oppie!

571
00:30:10,472 --> 00:30:13,375
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

572
00:30:16,545 --> 00:30:20,515
Teachers are unionized.
Why not professors?

573
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:21,983
Don't you have somewhere to be?

574
00:30:22,018 --> 00:30:23,852
Lawrence,
academics have rights too.

575
00:30:23,885 --> 00:30:26,388
Look, it's not that.
I've got a group coming.

576
00:30:26,421 --> 00:30:29,624
-Well, I'll sit in.
-Not this one.

577
00:30:35,897 --> 00:30:37,566
Richard. Dr. Bush.

578
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:39,668
What brings you two up north?

579
00:30:49,146 --> 00:30:50,513
Richard, you tell Ruth

580
00:30:50,546 --> 00:30:51,814
I'll be down
to Pasadena Thursday.

581
00:31:00,823 --> 00:31:03,459
Your paper
on black holes is in!

582
00:31:03,492 --> 00:31:05,461
Oppie!

583
00:31:05,494 --> 00:31:09,132
Where's Hartland?
Get Hartland. Get Hartland.

584
00:31:09,166 --> 00:31:11,434
September 1st, 1939,

585
00:31:11,467 --> 00:31:13,703
the world's gonna
remember this day.

586
00:31:14,637 --> 00:31:16,106
Oh, Hartland.
Our paper, it's in print.

587
00:31:16,139 --> 00:31:18,875
You've been upstaged.

588
00:31:22,478 --> 00:31:25,015
During the Battle of Britain,
I found myself

589
00:31:25,048 --> 00:31:27,783
increasingly out of sympathy
with the

590
00:31:27,817 --> 00:31:30,820
policy of neutrality
that Communists advocated.

591
00:31:30,853 --> 00:31:34,657
Right after Hitler invaded
Russia and we became allies,

592
00:31:34,690 --> 00:31:36,726
these Communist sympathies,
did they return?

593
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:37,793
No.

594
00:31:38,928 --> 00:31:42,531
I need to make clear that
my changing views on Russia

595
00:31:42,565 --> 00:31:43,799
did not mean a sharp break

596
00:31:43,833 --> 00:31:45,902
from those who held
different views.

597
00:31:45,935 --> 00:31:48,504
For a year or two,
and during a previous marriage,

598
00:31:48,537 --> 00:31:51,841
my wife Kitty had been
a Communist Party member.

599
00:31:54,477 --> 00:31:55,811
Oop!

600
00:31:55,845 --> 00:31:57,647
This way. This is where
I keep the good stuff.

601
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,682
Well, I thought
this was the Tolmans' house.

602
00:31:59,715 --> 00:32:01,918
I live with them
while I'm at Caltech.

603
00:32:01,951 --> 00:32:03,452
Do you two need anything?

604
00:32:03,486 --> 00:32:04,954
We're good, Ruthie.

605
00:32:06,056 --> 00:32:08,691
So, you're a biologist.

606
00:32:08,724 --> 00:32:11,928
Well, somehow
I have graduated to housewife.

607
00:32:11,961 --> 00:32:15,098
Can you explain
quantum mechanics to me?

608
00:32:15,132 --> 00:32:16,166
Seems baffling.

609
00:32:16,199 --> 00:32:17,900
Yes, it is.

610
00:32:19,002 --> 00:32:21,804
Well, this glass,

611
00:32:21,837 --> 00:32:22,738
this drink...

612
00:32:22,772 --> 00:32:25,875
...this countertop,

613
00:32:25,908 --> 00:32:29,012
uh, our bodies...

614
00:32:29,046 --> 00:32:30,947
all of it.

615
00:32:30,980 --> 00:32:33,549
It's mostly empty space.

616
00:32:33,582 --> 00:32:36,086
Groupings of tiny energy waves
bound together.

617
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:37,987
By what?

618
00:32:38,021 --> 00:32:41,590
Forces of attraction
strong enough to convince us

619
00:32:41,624 --> 00:32:43,826
that matter is solid.

620
00:32:43,859 --> 00:32:46,996
Stop my body
passing through yours.

621
00:32:58,741 --> 00:33:00,243
You're married to Dr. Harrison.

622
00:33:00,277 --> 00:33:02,012
Not very.

623
00:33:04,047 --> 00:33:07,750
There is someone that I feel...

624
00:33:07,783 --> 00:33:09,220
Does she feel the same way?

625
00:33:09,253 --> 00:33:13,091
Sometimes. Not enough.

626
00:33:14,292 --> 00:33:17,261
You know,
I'm going to New Mexico.

627
00:33:17,295 --> 00:33:19,097
To my ranch, with friends.

628
00:33:19,130 --> 00:33:20,497
You should come.

629
00:33:21,299 --> 00:33:23,134
I meant with your husband.

630
00:33:23,167 --> 00:33:24,735
Yes, you did.

631
00:33:24,768 --> 00:33:27,671
'Cause you know it won't make
a bit of difference.

632
00:33:31,641 --> 00:33:33,144
Why did you marry him?

633
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:36,713
I was lost and he was kind.

634
00:33:38,882 --> 00:33:39,750
Lost?

635
00:33:39,783 --> 00:33:43,287
Well, my previous husband
had died, and...

636
00:33:43,321 --> 00:33:45,756
at 28, I wasn't really ready
to be a widow.

637
00:33:45,789 --> 00:33:47,791
-Who was your first husband?
-Nobody.

638
00:33:47,824 --> 00:33:50,294
But my second husband
was Joe Dallet.

639
00:33:50,328 --> 00:33:53,297
He was, um, from money,
like me, but...

640
00:33:53,331 --> 00:33:56,267
he was a union organizer
in Youngstown, Ohio.

641
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:57,567
Fell hard.

642
00:33:57,601 --> 00:33:58,869
How hard?

643
00:33:58,902 --> 00:34:00,570
Hard enough to spend
the next four years

644
00:34:00,604 --> 00:34:01,938
living off beans and pancakes,

645
00:34:01,972 --> 00:34:04,741
handing out the <i>Daily Worker</i>
at factory gates.

646
00:34:04,775 --> 00:34:07,278
By 36, I just told Joe
I couldn't take it anymore.

647
00:34:07,311 --> 00:34:09,180
Quit the Party and a year later,

648
00:34:09,213 --> 00:34:12,749
I wanted him back, so...
Him, not the <i>Daily Worker.</i>

649
00:34:12,783 --> 00:34:14,918
And he said, "Swell, I'll meet
you on my way to Spain."

650
00:34:14,951 --> 00:34:16,653
He went to fight
for the Loyalists?

651
00:34:16,686 --> 00:34:18,789
And then he went to
the brigades and I waited.

652
00:34:18,822 --> 00:34:19,890
And...

653
00:34:20,757 --> 00:34:22,126
Joe got himself killed

654
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,561
first time he popped his head
out of the trench.

655
00:34:25,896 --> 00:34:28,332
Ideology got Joe killed.
For nothing.

656
00:34:28,366 --> 00:34:30,234
Spanish Republic isn't nothing.

657
00:34:30,268 --> 00:34:31,369
My husband offered
both our futures

658
00:34:31,402 --> 00:34:32,869
to stop one fascist bullet

659
00:34:32,903 --> 00:34:35,073
from embedding itself
in a mudbank.

660
00:34:35,972 --> 00:34:37,808
That's the definition
of nothing.

661
00:34:37,841 --> 00:34:39,843
Seems a little reductive.

662
00:34:39,876 --> 00:34:41,611
Pragmatic.

663
00:34:41,645 --> 00:34:44,082
Now here I am.

664
00:34:46,317 --> 00:34:47,918
Wherever the hell this is.

665
00:34:54,958 --> 00:34:58,229
I didn't want you to hear it
from anyone else.

666
00:35:00,664 --> 00:35:04,001
Least you didn't
bring me flowers.

667
00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:12,709
We both know I'm not
what you want, Jean.

668
00:35:13,743 --> 00:35:16,380
Yeah, but it's a door closing.

669
00:35:16,414 --> 00:35:17,814
No.

670
00:35:19,383 --> 00:35:21,751
Not as far as I'm concerned, no.

671
00:35:22,953 --> 00:35:24,688
You knocked her up, fast work.

672
00:35:24,721 --> 00:35:27,358
Can't keep a good man down.

673
00:35:27,391 --> 00:35:29,394
I meant her.

674
00:35:29,428 --> 00:35:31,430
She knew what she wanted.

675
00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:33,398
What about the husband?

676
00:35:33,432 --> 00:35:34,899
We talked, um,

677
00:35:34,932 --> 00:35:36,868
they're getting a divorce, so...

678
00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:40,671
we can get married
before she starts showing.

679
00:35:40,705 --> 00:35:42,174
How civilized.

680
00:35:44,143 --> 00:35:45,244
You idiot.

681
00:35:45,277 --> 00:35:47,045
This is your community.

682
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,015
You think the rules
don't apply to the golden boy?

683
00:35:51,183 --> 00:35:52,817
Brilliance makes up for a lot.

684
00:35:52,850 --> 00:35:55,354
Don't alienate the only people
in the world

685
00:35:55,387 --> 00:35:57,055
that understand what you do.

686
00:35:58,789 --> 00:36:00,159
One day you might need them.

687
00:36:00,192 --> 00:36:02,927
F.A.E.C.T.!

688
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,163
The Federation of Architects,

689
00:36:04,196 --> 00:36:07,332
Engineers, Chemists
and Technicians.

690
00:36:13,771 --> 00:36:16,308
Lomanitz,
what do you get paid a month?

691
00:36:16,341 --> 00:36:17,476
That's not the point, Lawrence.

692
00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:19,810
What do any of you
have in common

693
00:36:19,844 --> 00:36:22,447
with farm laborers
and dock workers?

694
00:36:22,481 --> 00:36:24,049
Plenty.

695
00:36:25,117 --> 00:36:27,653
Everybody out. Now!

696
00:36:31,490 --> 00:36:32,890
Not you.

697
00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:39,797
What are you doing?

698
00:36:39,830 --> 00:36:41,500
It's a trade union.

699
00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:43,468
Filled with Communists.

700
00:36:43,502 --> 00:36:45,204
So? I haven't joined the Party.

701
00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:47,339
They won't let me
bring you onto the project

702
00:36:47,372 --> 00:36:49,074
because of this shit.

703
00:36:49,107 --> 00:36:50,875
They won't even let me
tell you what the project is.

704
00:36:50,908 --> 00:36:53,345
Oh.
I know what the project is.

705
00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:54,446
Oh, really?

706
00:36:54,479 --> 00:36:55,780
We've all heard about Einstein

707
00:36:55,813 --> 00:36:57,082
and Szilard's letter
to Roosevelt

708
00:36:57,115 --> 00:36:58,916
warning him the Germans
could make a bomb,

709
00:36:58,950 --> 00:37:01,819
and I know what it means
for the Nazis to have a bomb.

710
00:37:01,852 --> 00:37:03,222
Oh, and I don't?

711
00:37:03,255 --> 00:37:05,890
It's not your people
they're herding into camps.

712
00:37:06,991 --> 00:37:07,992
It's mine.

713
00:37:08,026 --> 00:37:11,163
You think that I tell them
about your politics.

714
00:37:12,264 --> 00:37:14,832
The next time you're
coming home from a meeting,

715
00:37:14,865 --> 00:37:16,901
why don't you take a look
in the rearview mirror?

716
00:37:16,934 --> 00:37:19,004
Listen to the sounds
on your phone line

717
00:37:19,037 --> 00:37:22,107
and stop being so goddamn naive.

718
00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:24,942
Why would they care what I do?

719
00:37:24,976 --> 00:37:26,944
Because you're
not just self-important,

720
00:37:26,978 --> 00:37:29,147
you're actually important.

721
00:37:30,382 --> 00:37:31,749
Okay.

722
00:37:32,384 --> 00:37:35,387
Okay. I get it.

723
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:37,489
If you could
just be a little more...

724
00:37:37,522 --> 00:37:39,024
Pragmatic.

725
00:37:39,057 --> 00:37:40,158
I'll talk to Lomanitz,
I'll talk to the others,

726
00:37:40,192 --> 00:37:42,294
you don't have to worry.
It's done.

727
00:37:42,327 --> 00:37:44,096
Lawrence.

728
00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:50,936
Then welcome to the war.

729
00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:53,273
I filled out my first
security questionnaire

730
00:37:53,306 --> 00:37:54,574
and was informed

731
00:37:54,607 --> 00:37:56,409
that my involvement
with left-wing groups

732
00:37:56,442 --> 00:38:00,380
would not prove a bar to my
working on the atomic program.

733
00:38:00,413 --> 00:38:03,149
<i>Why were</i>
<i>his Communist associations</i>

734
00:38:03,182 --> 00:38:06,286
not seen as a security risk
during the war?

735
00:38:06,319 --> 00:38:08,054
Senator, I can't possibly answer

736
00:38:08,087 --> 00:38:11,424
for security clearance granted
years before I ever met the man.

737
00:38:11,457 --> 00:38:13,459
Fine. What about after?

738
00:38:13,493 --> 00:38:15,428
After the war, Dr. Oppenheimer

739
00:38:15,461 --> 00:38:19,232
was the most respected
scientific voice in the world.

740
00:38:19,265 --> 00:38:21,301
That's why I asked him
to run the Institute,

741
00:38:21,334 --> 00:38:24,437
that's why he advised
the Atomic Energy Commission.

742
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:25,538
Simple as that.

743
00:38:25,571 --> 00:38:28,174
What are they accusing me of?

744
00:38:28,207 --> 00:38:29,975
I think they just want
to know what happened

745
00:38:30,009 --> 00:38:32,512
between 1947 and 1954
to change your mind

746
00:38:32,545 --> 00:38:34,580
on Oppenheimer's
security clearance.

747
00:38:34,614 --> 00:38:37,350
I didn't.
I was chair of the AEC,

748
00:38:37,383 --> 00:38:40,952
but it wasn't me that brought
the charges against Robert.

749
00:38:40,986 --> 00:38:42,221
-Who did?
-Some former staff member

750
00:38:42,255 --> 00:38:44,190
of the Joint
Congressional Committee.

751
00:38:44,223 --> 00:38:47,293
He was a rabid anti-Communist
named Borden.

752
00:38:47,327 --> 00:38:49,629
He wrote to the FBI
demanding they take action.

753
00:38:49,662 --> 00:38:52,198
The FBI? Why not go
to the AEC, direct?

754
00:38:52,231 --> 00:38:54,933
Why get caught
holding the knife yourself?

755
00:38:54,966 --> 00:38:57,403
What did Borden have
against Oppenheimer?

756
00:38:57,437 --> 00:38:59,272
This was the McCarthy Era.

757
00:38:59,305 --> 00:39:04,210
People hounded out of jobs
for any hint of red. And then,

758
00:39:04,243 --> 00:39:05,911
<i>reading Oppenheimer's</i>
<i>security file,</i>

759
00:39:05,944 --> 00:39:08,114
<i>his Communist brother,</i>
<i>sister-in-law,</i>

760
00:39:08,147 --> 00:39:10,216
<i>fiancée, best friend, wife.</i>

761
00:39:10,249 --> 00:39:12,585
That's before we even
get to the Chevalier incident.

762
00:39:12,618 --> 00:39:16,356
But how would Borden have access
to Oppenheimer's security file?

763
00:39:16,389 --> 00:39:18,057
Because somebody gave it to him.

764
00:39:19,225 --> 00:39:21,893
Somebody who wanted
Robert silenced.

765
00:39:21,927 --> 00:39:23,529
-Who?
-Who knows?

766
00:39:23,563 --> 00:39:26,099
Robert didn't take care
not to upset

767
00:39:26,132 --> 00:39:28,368
the power brokers in Washington.

768
00:39:28,401 --> 00:39:31,270
His opinions on the atom
became definitive

769
00:39:31,304 --> 00:39:34,207
and he wasn't always patient
with us mere mortals.

770
00:39:37,610 --> 00:39:40,046
I came in for plenty
of harsh treatment.

771
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:43,249
There was an AEC vote

772
00:39:43,282 --> 00:39:45,251
on the export of isotopes
to Norway,

773
00:39:45,284 --> 00:39:48,254
<i>and they drafted in Robert</i>
<i>to make me look like a fool.</i>

774
00:39:48,287 --> 00:39:49,988
But, Dr. Oppenheimer,

775
00:39:50,022 --> 00:39:52,125
we've already heard
from Admiral Strauss that

776
00:39:52,158 --> 00:39:54,993
these isotopes could be
useful to our enemies

777
00:39:55,027 --> 00:39:56,329
in the production
of atomic weapons.

778
00:39:56,362 --> 00:39:58,231
Congressmen,
you could use a shovel

779
00:39:58,264 --> 00:39:59,699
in making atomic weapons.

780
00:39:59,732 --> 00:40:00,932
In fact, you do.

781
00:40:00,966 --> 00:40:02,502
You could use a bottle of beer

782
00:40:02,535 --> 00:40:03,935
in making atomic weapons.

783
00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:05,438
In fact, you do.

784
00:40:05,471 --> 00:40:08,408
I say isotopes are less useful
than electronic components

785
00:40:08,441 --> 00:40:11,210
but more useful than a sandwich.

786
00:40:14,448 --> 00:40:16,316
<i>Genius is</i>
<i>no guarantee of wisdom.</i>

787
00:40:17,317 --> 00:40:20,087
How could this man
who saw so much be so blind?

788
00:40:29,596 --> 00:40:31,031
Kitty?

789
00:40:35,736 --> 00:40:37,671
Kitty?

790
00:40:37,704 --> 00:40:41,108
Kitty, the project...

791
00:40:42,075 --> 00:40:44,678
I'm in. I'm in.

792
00:40:44,711 --> 00:40:46,480
Let's celebrate.

793
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:53,720
Shouldn't you go to him?

794
00:40:58,325 --> 00:41:01,495
I have been going to him
all fucking day.

795
00:41:25,252 --> 00:41:26,986
Come here, darling.

796
00:41:28,088 --> 00:41:29,656
I don't know how to say this.

797
00:41:29,690 --> 00:41:32,392
I'm... I'm ashamed to ask.

798
00:41:32,426 --> 00:41:34,361
Anything.

799
00:41:34,394 --> 00:41:35,195
Take Peter.

800
00:41:35,229 --> 00:41:38,265
-Sure.
-No, for-for a while, Hoke.

801
00:41:38,298 --> 00:41:40,267
A while.

802
00:41:41,835 --> 00:41:43,637
Does Kitty know you're here?

803
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:45,405
Yes, of course she knows.

804
00:41:46,273 --> 00:41:48,275
Of course she knows.

805
00:41:48,308 --> 00:41:52,012
We're awful people.
Selfish, awful people.

806
00:41:53,514 --> 00:41:54,515
Forget I asked.

807
00:41:54,548 --> 00:41:56,383
Selfish, awful people,

808
00:41:56,416 --> 00:41:58,819
they don't know
they're selfish and awful.

809
00:41:58,852 --> 00:42:01,421
Sit, sit, sit.

810
00:42:02,456 --> 00:42:06,560
Robert, you see beyond
the world we live in.

811
00:42:08,262 --> 00:42:10,831
There is a price
to be paid for that.

812
00:42:10,864 --> 00:42:12,432
Of course we'll help you.

813
00:42:23,377 --> 00:42:25,546
Everything's changing, Robert.

814
00:42:25,579 --> 00:42:27,548
Having a child was always
going to change...

815
00:42:27,581 --> 00:42:31,685
No, the world, it's pivoting
in some new direction.

816
00:42:31,718 --> 00:42:34,122
It's reforming.

817
00:42:35,890 --> 00:42:37,592
This is your moment.

818
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,428
We're putting together a group
to study feasibility...

819
00:42:40,461 --> 00:42:43,264
"We" shouldn't be
doing anything. You should.

820
00:42:44,165 --> 00:42:46,301
Lawrence won't get this done.

821
00:42:46,334 --> 00:42:48,469
Or Tolman or Rabi. You will.

822
00:42:57,312 --> 00:42:59,447
Who are the uniforms?

823
00:43:00,248 --> 00:43:02,150
I thought you might know.

824
00:43:03,184 --> 00:43:05,453
Dr. Oppenheimer.

825
00:43:05,486 --> 00:43:07,455
I'm Colonel Groves.

826
00:43:07,488 --> 00:43:09,724
This is Lieutenant
Colonel Nichols.

827
00:43:09,757 --> 00:43:11,259
Have that dry-cleaned.

828
00:43:17,165 --> 00:43:19,233
Well, if that's how you treat
Lieutenant Colonel,

829
00:43:19,267 --> 00:43:22,637
I'd hate to see how you treat
a humble physicist.

830
00:43:22,670 --> 00:43:24,739
Ah, if I ever meet one,
I'll let you know.

831
00:43:24,772 --> 00:43:26,274
Ouch.

832
00:43:26,307 --> 00:43:27,875
Theaters of combat
all over the world,

833
00:43:27,909 --> 00:43:29,844
but I have to stay
in Washington.

834
00:43:29,877 --> 00:43:32,580
-Why?
-I built the Pentagon.

835
00:43:32,614 --> 00:43:35,249
The brass likes it so much
they made me take over

836
00:43:35,283 --> 00:43:37,418
the Manhattan Engineer District.

837
00:43:37,452 --> 00:43:38,586
Which is?

838
00:43:38,620 --> 00:43:41,889
Oh, don't be a smart ass.
You know damn well what it is.

839
00:43:41,923 --> 00:43:43,625
You and half of every
physics department

840
00:43:43,658 --> 00:43:46,494
across the country.
That's problem number one.

841
00:43:46,527 --> 00:43:48,262
I thought problem
number one would be

842
00:43:48,296 --> 00:43:49,564
securing enough uranium ore.

843
00:43:49,597 --> 00:43:52,700
1,200 tons bought
the day I took charge.

844
00:43:52,734 --> 00:43:53,901
Processing?

845
00:43:53,935 --> 00:43:56,137
Just broke ground
at Oak Ridge, Tennessee.

846
00:43:56,938 --> 00:43:58,640
Now I'm looking
for a project director.

847
00:43:58,673 --> 00:44:00,775
And my name came up?

848
00:44:00,808 --> 00:44:01,876
Nope.

849
00:44:03,012 --> 00:44:05,246
Even though you brought
quantum physics to America.

850
00:44:05,279 --> 00:44:06,648
Which made me curious.

851
00:44:06,681 --> 00:44:08,549
What have you found out?

852
00:44:09,450 --> 00:44:11,953
You're a dilettante,
a womanizer,

853
00:44:11,986 --> 00:44:13,321
a suspected Communist...

854
00:44:13,354 --> 00:44:14,756
I'm a New Deal Democrat.

855
00:44:14,789 --> 00:44:16,391
I said "suspected."

856
00:44:16,424 --> 00:44:20,662
Unstable, theatrical,
egotistical, neurotic...

857
00:44:20,695 --> 00:44:21,729
Nothing good, no?

858
00:44:21,763 --> 00:44:23,431
Not even
"he's brilliant, but..."

859
00:44:23,464 --> 00:44:25,266
Well, brilliance is taken
for granted

860
00:44:25,299 --> 00:44:26,801
in your circle, so no.

861
00:44:26,834 --> 00:44:28,803
No, the only person who had
anything good to say

862
00:44:28,836 --> 00:44:30,571
was Richard Tolman.

863
00:44:30,605 --> 00:44:32,707
Tolman thinks
you have integrity,

864
00:44:32,740 --> 00:44:34,876
but he also strikes me as a guy

865
00:44:34,909 --> 00:44:37,278
who knows more about
science than people.

866
00:44:37,311 --> 00:44:41,282
Yet here you are.
You don't take much on trust.

867
00:44:41,315 --> 00:44:43,317
I don't take anything on trust.

868
00:44:46,888 --> 00:44:48,623
Why don't you
have a Nobel Prize?

869
00:44:48,656 --> 00:44:49,724
Why aren't you a general?

870
00:44:49,757 --> 00:44:50,925
They're making me one for this.

871
00:44:50,958 --> 00:44:52,326
Perhaps I'll have the same luck.

872
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,961
A Nobel Prize for making a bomb?

873
00:44:53,995 --> 00:44:56,331
Alfred Nobel invented dynamite.

874
00:44:58,767 --> 00:45:00,402
So how would you proceed?

875
00:45:01,904 --> 00:45:04,606
You're talking
about turning theory

876
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,809
into a practical weapons system

877
00:45:06,842 --> 00:45:07,976
faster than the Nazis.

878
00:45:08,011 --> 00:45:09,745
Who have a 12-month head start.

879
00:45:09,778 --> 00:45:10,913
Eighteen.

880
00:45:10,946 --> 00:45:12,314
How could you possibly
know that?

881
00:45:12,347 --> 00:45:14,383
Our fast neutron research
took six months.

882
00:45:14,416 --> 00:45:15,918
The man they've
undoubtedly put in charge

883
00:45:15,951 --> 00:45:17,352
will have made
that leap instantly.

884
00:45:17,386 --> 00:45:18,587
Who do you think
they put in charge?

885
00:45:18,620 --> 00:45:19,722
Werner Heisenberg.

886
00:45:19,755 --> 00:45:22,324
He has the most intuitive
understanding

887
00:45:22,357 --> 00:45:24,027
of atomic structure
I have ever seen.

888
00:45:24,060 --> 00:45:25,761
-You know his work?
-I know him.

889
00:45:25,794 --> 00:45:27,629
<i>Just like I know Walther Bothe,</i>
<i>von Weizsäcker, Diebner.</i>

890
00:45:27,663 --> 00:45:30,466
In a straight race,
the Germans win.

891
00:45:30,499 --> 00:45:33,235
-We've got one hope.
-Which is?

892
00:45:33,836 --> 00:45:35,471
Anti-Semitism.

893
00:45:36,605 --> 00:45:37,606
What?

894
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:40,476
Hitler called quantum physics
"Jewish science."

895
00:45:40,509 --> 00:45:42,344
Said it right
to Einstein's face.

896
00:45:42,377 --> 00:45:45,614
Our one hope is that Hitler
is so... so blinded by hate

897
00:45:45,647 --> 00:45:47,449
that he's denied Heisenberg
proper resources,

898
00:45:47,483 --> 00:45:49,418
because it'll take
vast resources.

899
00:45:49,451 --> 00:45:50,986
Our nation's best scientists
working together.

900
00:45:51,020 --> 00:45:52,421
Right now, they're scattered.

901
00:45:52,454 --> 00:45:54,057
Which gives us
compartmentalization.

902
00:45:54,090 --> 00:45:55,958
All minds have
to see the whole task

903
00:45:55,991 --> 00:45:57,359
to contribute efficiently.

904
00:45:57,392 --> 00:45:59,628
Poor security
may cost us the race.

905
00:45:59,661 --> 00:46:01,497
Inefficiency will.

906
00:46:01,530 --> 00:46:03,365
The Germans know
more than us anyway.

907
00:46:03,398 --> 00:46:05,501
The Russians don't.

908
00:46:05,534 --> 00:46:09,471
Remind me,
who are we at war with?

909
00:46:09,505 --> 00:46:11,940
Somebody with your past
doesn't want to be seen

910
00:46:11,974 --> 00:46:13,575
downplaying the importance

911
00:46:13,609 --> 00:46:16,345
of security from
our Communist allies.

912
00:46:16,378 --> 00:46:19,048
Point taken. But, no.

913
00:46:19,082 --> 00:46:21,383
You don't get
to say "no" to me.

914
00:46:21,416 --> 00:46:23,685
It's my job to say "no" to you
when you're wrong.

915
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,721
So you have the job now?

916
00:46:25,754 --> 00:46:27,823
Uh, I'm considering it.

917
00:46:30,526 --> 00:46:32,861
I'm starting to see
where you got your reputation.

918
00:46:34,063 --> 00:46:36,498
My favorite response,

919
00:46:36,532 --> 00:46:38,867
"Oppenheimer couldn't
run a hamburger stand."

920
00:46:40,836 --> 00:46:41,637
I couldn't.

921
00:46:43,672 --> 00:46:45,841
But I can run
the Manhattan Project.

922
00:46:46,708 --> 00:46:48,877
There's a way
to balance these things.

923
00:46:48,911 --> 00:46:53,116
Keep the Rad Lab here
at Berkeley under Lawrence.

924
00:46:53,149 --> 00:46:55,417
Met Lab in Chicago,
under Szilard.

925
00:46:55,450 --> 00:46:57,886
Large-scale refining,
where did you say? Tennessee.

926
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,588
-And Hanford.
-And Hanford.

927
00:46:59,621 --> 00:47:03,692
All America's industrial might
and scientific innovation,

928
00:47:03,725 --> 00:47:05,094
connected by rail.

929
00:47:05,128 --> 00:47:06,795
Focused on one goal.

930
00:47:06,829 --> 00:47:09,531
One point in space and time.
And it comes together here.

931
00:47:09,565 --> 00:47:11,867
<i>A secret laboratory.</i>
<i>In the middle of nowhere,</i>

932
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:13,368
<i>secure, self-sufficient,</i>

933
00:47:13,402 --> 00:47:14,770
equipment, housing, the works.

934
00:47:14,803 --> 00:47:16,973
Keep everyone there
until it's done.

935
00:47:17,007 --> 00:47:19,043
It'll need a school,
stores, a church.

936
00:47:19,076 --> 00:47:20,510
Why?

937
00:47:20,543 --> 00:47:21,845
<i>If we don't let scientists</i>

938
00:47:21,878 --> 00:47:23,580
bring their families,
we'll never get the best.

939
00:47:23,613 --> 00:47:25,682
You want security,
build a town, build it fast.

940
00:47:25,715 --> 00:47:26,783
Where?

941
00:47:30,787 --> 00:47:32,755
Welcome to Los Alamos.

942
00:47:32,789 --> 00:47:35,592
Now, there's a boys school
we'll have to commandeer,

943
00:47:35,625 --> 00:47:37,594
and the local Indians come
up here for burial rites.

944
00:47:37,627 --> 00:47:40,864
But, apart from that, nothing.
Forty miles. Any direction.

945
00:47:40,897 --> 00:47:42,832
Enough to find the perfect spot.

946
00:47:42,866 --> 00:47:45,368
-For?
-Success.

947
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,642
Build him a town. Fast.

948
00:47:53,676 --> 00:47:56,180
Let's go recruit
some scientists.

949
00:47:56,213 --> 00:47:58,548
Why would I leave my family?

950
00:47:58,581 --> 00:48:00,017
I told you,
you can bring your family.

951
00:48:00,050 --> 00:48:01,484
I'm not a soldier, Oppie.

952
00:48:01,517 --> 00:48:03,620
A soldier? He's a general.

953
00:48:03,653 --> 00:48:05,488
I've got all the soldier I need.

954
00:48:05,521 --> 00:48:07,091
What can I tell them?

955
00:48:07,124 --> 00:48:09,459
Heisenberg, Diebner,
Bothe and Bohr.

956
00:48:09,492 --> 00:48:10,793
What do these men
have in common?

957
00:48:10,827 --> 00:48:12,829
The greatest minds
on atomic theory.

958
00:48:12,862 --> 00:48:14,198
-Yes, and?
-Uh...

959
00:48:14,231 --> 00:48:17,500
As much as you like,

960
00:48:17,533 --> 00:48:19,669
until you feel my boot
on your balls.

961
00:48:19,702 --> 00:48:22,472
You know isotopes
and you know explosives

962
00:48:22,505 --> 00:48:23,806
better than anyone in the world.

963
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,442
But you can't tell us
what you're doing?

964
00:48:29,512 --> 00:48:31,748
-I don't know.
-The Nazis have them.

965
00:48:31,781 --> 00:48:33,917
-Niels Bohr's in Copenhagen.
-Under Nazi occupation.

966
00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:35,818
Did they stop printing
newspapers in Princeton?

967
00:48:35,852 --> 00:48:38,188
Why would we go
to the middle of nowhere

968
00:48:38,222 --> 00:48:39,689
for who knows how long?

969
00:48:39,722 --> 00:48:41,824
For a year or two. Or three.

970
00:48:42,825 --> 00:48:46,429
Uh, General, could you
give us a moment?

971
00:48:47,497 --> 00:48:50,566
It's about unleashing
the strong force...

972
00:48:51,701 --> 00:48:53,103
...before the Nazis do.

973
00:48:53,137 --> 00:48:55,072
Oh, my God.

974
00:48:55,105 --> 00:48:56,206
Niels won't work for the Nazis.

975
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:57,540
No, never.

976
00:48:57,573 --> 00:48:59,876
But while they have him,
we don't.

977
00:48:59,909 --> 00:49:01,078
That's why I need you.

978
00:49:01,111 --> 00:49:03,080
Why would you think I'd do that?

979
00:49:03,113 --> 00:49:04,948
"Why?" "Why?"

980
00:49:04,981 --> 00:49:07,184
How about because this is the
most important fucking thing

981
00:49:07,217 --> 00:49:09,219
to ever happen
in the history of the world.

982
00:49:09,253 --> 00:49:10,687
How about that?

983
00:49:11,255 --> 00:49:12,689
Fuck.

984
00:49:17,627 --> 00:49:19,996
They are not gonna
let me onto this project.

985
00:49:20,030 --> 00:49:22,099
And failing a security check
is not gonna be good

986
00:49:22,132 --> 00:49:23,800
for a career,
even after the war.

987
00:49:23,833 --> 00:49:26,602
So you're a fellow traveler.
So what?

988
00:49:26,636 --> 00:49:28,004
This is a national emergency.

989
00:49:28,038 --> 00:49:31,208
I've got some skeletons,
they put me in charge.

990
00:49:31,241 --> 00:49:32,542
They need us.

991
00:49:32,575 --> 00:49:34,744
Until they don't.

992
00:49:37,814 --> 00:49:40,218
Is there any chance of getting
Bohr out of Denmark?

993
00:49:40,251 --> 00:49:43,254
Nah, no dice.
I checked with the British.

994
00:49:43,288 --> 00:49:45,589
Until we get Allied boots
back onto the continent,

995
00:49:45,622 --> 00:49:47,025
there's just no way.

996
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:49,994
Is he that important?

997
00:49:50,028 --> 00:49:53,064
How many people do you know
who proved Einstein wrong?

998
00:49:54,132 --> 00:49:56,234
You know, it really would
be quicker to take a plane.

999
00:49:56,267 --> 00:49:58,002
No, plane's too risky.

1000
00:49:58,036 --> 00:50:00,504
Country needs us.

1001
00:50:02,873 --> 00:50:03,974
The Harvard guys,

1002
00:50:04,009 --> 00:50:06,577
they say the building's
too small for the cyclotron.

1003
00:50:08,812 --> 00:50:10,714
Get them together
with the architects.

1004
00:50:13,917 --> 00:50:15,919
When's this place
supposed to open?

1005
00:50:19,024 --> 00:50:19,823
Two months.

1006
00:50:20,958 --> 00:50:23,228
Robert, you're
the great improviser,

1007
00:50:23,261 --> 00:50:25,296
but this...

1008
00:50:25,330 --> 00:50:26,930
you can't do in your head.

1009
00:50:27,965 --> 00:50:29,566
Four divisions.

1010
00:50:30,701 --> 00:50:34,305
Experimental, Theoretical,
Metallurgical, Ordnance.

1011
00:50:34,339 --> 00:50:35,306
Who's running Theoretical?

1012
00:50:35,340 --> 00:50:36,740
I am.

1013
00:50:36,774 --> 00:50:37,975
That's what I was afraid of.

1014
00:50:38,009 --> 00:50:39,877
You're spread too thin.

1015
00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:42,780
So you take Theoretical.

1016
00:50:45,350 --> 00:50:48,585
I'm not coming here, Robert.

1017
00:50:54,225 --> 00:50:55,893
Why not?

1018
00:51:01,765 --> 00:51:05,836
You drop a bomb and it falls
on the just and the unjust.

1019
00:51:07,105 --> 00:51:09,740
I don't wish the culmination
of three centuries of physics

1020
00:51:09,773 --> 00:51:12,177
to be a weapon
of mass destruction.

1021
00:51:21,386 --> 00:51:22,719
Izzy.

1022
00:51:23,854 --> 00:51:27,991
I don't know if we can
be trusted with such a weapon.

1023
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,663
But I know the Nazis can't.

1024
00:51:36,067 --> 00:51:38,869
We have no choice.

1025
00:51:40,271 --> 00:51:41,705
Then...

1026
00:51:43,041 --> 00:51:45,410
...the second thing
you'll have to do is appoint

1027
00:51:45,443 --> 00:51:47,711
Hans Bethe to run
the Theoretical division.

1028
00:51:50,081 --> 00:51:51,915
Wait, what was the first?

1029
00:51:51,949 --> 00:51:54,419
Take off
that ridiculous uniform.

1030
00:51:54,452 --> 00:51:55,652
You're a scientist.

1031
00:51:55,686 --> 00:51:57,288
Groves is insisting we join.

1032
00:51:57,322 --> 00:51:59,757
Tell Groves to go
shit in his hat.

1033
00:51:59,791 --> 00:52:03,262
They need us for who we are.
So be yourself.

1034
00:52:03,295 --> 00:52:05,264
Only better.

1035
00:52:44,303 --> 00:52:46,338
This is the only key.

1036
00:52:46,372 --> 00:52:47,805
And Teller's already here.

1037
00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:49,707
Shall I just show him in?

1038
00:52:49,741 --> 00:52:51,410
No, let's wait for the others.

1039
00:52:59,351 --> 00:53:00,352
Let's get started.

1040
00:53:00,386 --> 00:53:02,454
Hello, Edward.

1041
00:53:02,488 --> 00:53:04,190
Yes.

1042
00:53:04,223 --> 00:53:05,924
Gentlemen, so, we will work here

1043
00:53:05,957 --> 00:53:08,960
until the T-section
at Los Alamos is finished.

1044
00:53:08,993 --> 00:53:11,297
-Edward, can I please...
-It is more important.

1045
00:53:13,365 --> 00:53:15,334
When I calculated
the chain reaction,

1046
00:53:15,367 --> 00:53:18,070
I found a rather
troubling possibility.

1047
00:53:18,103 --> 00:53:20,206
No.

1048
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,473
But this can't be right.

1049
00:53:21,507 --> 00:53:23,442
Show me how
you did your calculations.

1050
00:53:23,475 --> 00:53:24,876
Yes.

1051
00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:29,448
It's exponential.

1052
00:53:29,481 --> 00:53:31,950
No. No, no, no. No.

1053
00:53:34,486 --> 00:53:36,488
This is fantasy.

1054
00:53:36,522 --> 00:53:38,790
Teller's calculations
can't be right.

1055
00:53:38,823 --> 00:53:41,493
Do them yourself
while I go to Princeton.

1056
00:53:41,527 --> 00:53:43,362
-What for?
-To talk to Einstein.

1057
00:53:43,395 --> 00:53:45,964
Well, there's not much
common ground between you two.

1058
00:53:45,997 --> 00:53:49,034
That's why
I should get his view.

1059
00:53:52,471 --> 00:53:54,473
-Albert.
-Hmm?

1060
00:53:54,506 --> 00:53:57,409
Ah. Dr. Oppenheimer.

1061
00:53:57,443 --> 00:53:58,910
Well, have you met Dr. Gödel?

1062
00:53:58,943 --> 00:54:00,512
We walk here most days.

1063
00:54:00,546 --> 00:54:05,351
Trees are the most
inspiring structures.

1064
00:54:05,384 --> 00:54:06,851
Albert, might I have a word?

1065
00:54:06,884 --> 00:54:10,289
Of course. 'Scuse me, Kurt.

1066
00:54:11,290 --> 00:54:14,226
You know, some days,
Kurt refuses to eat.

1067
00:54:14,260 --> 00:54:15,860
Even in Princeton.

1068
00:54:15,893 --> 00:54:18,997
He's convinced that the Nazis
can poison his food.

1069
00:54:19,031 --> 00:54:20,299
Mm.

1070
00:54:20,332 --> 00:54:22,168
Hmm? Huh.

1071
00:54:24,037 --> 00:54:25,871
Wha...

1072
00:54:30,410 --> 00:54:33,246
Whose... Whose work is this?

1073
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,314
Teller's.

1074
00:54:35,448 --> 00:54:37,916
What do you take it to mean?

1075
00:54:37,950 --> 00:54:39,885
Neutrons smash into nucleus,

1076
00:54:39,918 --> 00:54:43,956
releasing neutrons
to smash into other nuclei.

1077
00:54:43,989 --> 00:54:46,192
Criticality,
a point of no return,

1078
00:54:46,226 --> 00:54:47,826
massive explosive force.

1079
00:54:47,860 --> 00:54:50,196
But this time,
the chain reaction doesn't stop.

1080
00:54:51,097 --> 00:54:54,067
It would ignite the atmosphere.

1081
00:54:55,135 --> 00:54:57,103
When we detonate
an atomic device,

1082
00:54:57,137 --> 00:54:59,306
we might start
a chain reaction that...

1083
00:55:00,273 --> 00:55:01,807
...destroys the world.

1084
00:55:02,975 --> 00:55:04,877
So here we are, hmm?

1085
00:55:04,910 --> 00:55:09,215
Lost in your quantum world
of probabilities

1086
00:55:09,249 --> 00:55:10,983
and needing certainty.

1087
00:55:11,017 --> 00:55:13,886
Can you run
the calculations yourself?

1088
00:55:13,919 --> 00:55:15,322
About the only thing

1089
00:55:15,355 --> 00:55:18,625
you and I have in common
is a disdain for mathematics.

1090
00:55:18,658 --> 00:55:21,227
Who's working on this
in-in Berkeley?

1091
00:55:21,261 --> 00:55:22,562
Hans Bethe.

1092
00:55:22,595 --> 00:55:24,431
Well, he'll get to the truth.

1093
00:55:26,066 --> 00:55:28,934
And if the truth
is catastrophic?

1094
00:55:28,967 --> 00:55:30,270
Then you stop.

1095
00:55:30,303 --> 00:55:34,040
And you share your findings
with the Nazis.

1096
00:55:34,074 --> 00:55:37,210
So neither side
destroys the world.

1097
00:55:40,413 --> 00:55:41,448
Robert.

1098
00:55:42,915 --> 00:55:46,119
This is yours, not mine.

1099
00:55:58,997 --> 00:56:00,400
Teller's wrong.

1100
00:56:00,433 --> 00:56:01,634
He's wrong.

1101
00:56:11,311 --> 00:56:14,013
When you know
Teller's critical assumptions,

1102
00:56:14,047 --> 00:56:15,382
the real picture emerges.

1103
00:56:15,415 --> 00:56:17,217
Bottom line?

1104
00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:19,352
The chances of an uncontrolled
nuclear reaction

1105
00:56:19,386 --> 00:56:20,387
are near zero.

1106
00:56:20,420 --> 00:56:23,056
Near zero.

1107
00:56:23,089 --> 00:56:25,358
-Oppie, this is good news.
-Mm.

1108
00:56:26,693 --> 00:56:27,926
Can you run them again?

1109
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,696
No, you'll get the same answer.

1110
00:56:29,729 --> 00:56:31,297
Till they actually detonate
one of these things,

1111
00:56:31,331 --> 00:56:34,167
the best assurance
you're going to get is this.

1112
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,268
Near zero.

1113
00:56:37,470 --> 00:56:40,140
Theory
will take you only so far.

1114
00:56:40,173 --> 00:56:41,674
-Mm.
<i>-Hello!</i>

1115
00:56:41,708 --> 00:56:43,010
-Hello, you.
-Hi.

1116
00:56:43,043 --> 00:56:44,378
We missed him.

1117
00:56:44,412 --> 00:56:45,546
You want to adopt?

1118
00:56:45,579 --> 00:56:46,980
She's kidding.

1119
00:56:47,014 --> 00:56:48,948
We wanted to see you
before we left.

1120
00:56:48,982 --> 00:56:52,153
For parts unknown.

1121
00:56:52,186 --> 00:56:54,722
You know who
I ran into the other day?

1122
00:56:54,755 --> 00:56:56,390
Eltenton.

1123
00:56:56,424 --> 00:56:57,691
Oh.

1124
00:56:57,725 --> 00:56:59,427
The chemist from Shell?
The union guy?

1125
00:56:59,460 --> 00:57:03,330
Yeah. He...
The, uh, F.A.E.C.T. guy.

1126
00:57:03,364 --> 00:57:06,734
He was moaning about
how we're handling the war.

1127
00:57:06,767 --> 00:57:08,968
How so?

1128
00:57:09,002 --> 00:57:11,739
Lack of cooperation
with our allies.

1129
00:57:11,772 --> 00:57:14,108
Apparently
our government's not sharing

1130
00:57:14,141 --> 00:57:16,243
any research with the Russians.

1131
00:57:16,277 --> 00:57:17,244
Well, he said,

1132
00:57:17,278 --> 00:57:20,014
"Most scientists think
the policy is stupid."

1133
00:57:23,350 --> 00:57:25,186
-Oh, yeah?
-Yeah.

1134
00:57:25,219 --> 00:57:27,588
He mentioned that if anyone

1135
00:57:27,621 --> 00:57:30,591
had anything
they wanted to pass on,

1136
00:57:30,624 --> 00:57:32,460
uh, going around
official channels,

1137
00:57:32,493 --> 00:57:34,428
that he could help.

1138
00:57:43,070 --> 00:57:44,738
That would be treason.

1139
00:57:44,772 --> 00:57:47,608
Yes, of course.

1140
00:57:47,641 --> 00:57:49,443
I just thought you should know.

1141
00:57:52,580 --> 00:57:54,048
The brat is down.

1142
00:57:54,081 --> 00:57:55,449
Where are the martinis?

1143
00:58:00,654 --> 00:58:02,156
Coming right up.

1144
00:58:02,189 --> 00:58:03,657
<i>Conversation ended there.</i>

1145
00:58:03,691 --> 00:58:05,793
Nothing in our
long-standing friendship

1146
00:58:05,826 --> 00:58:07,394
would have led me to believe

1147
00:58:07,428 --> 00:58:10,164
that Chevalier was actually
seeking information,

1148
00:58:10,197 --> 00:58:12,666
and I am certain
that he had no idea

1149
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:15,001
of the work in which
I was engaged.

1150
00:58:19,540 --> 00:58:21,509
It has long been clear to me

1151
00:58:21,542 --> 00:58:24,245
that I should have reported
this incident at once.

1152
00:58:24,278 --> 00:58:25,779
<i>The Oppenheimer situation</i>

1153
00:58:25,813 --> 00:58:28,716
<i>highlights the tension</i>
<i>between scientists</i>

1154
00:58:28,749 --> 00:58:30,351
and the security apparatus.

1155
00:58:30,384 --> 00:58:32,253
In hopes of learning
how the nominee handled

1156
00:58:32,286 --> 00:58:34,622
such issues during
his time at the AEC,

1157
00:58:34,655 --> 00:58:38,158
we'll have a scientist
appearing before the committee.

1158
00:58:38,826 --> 00:58:40,394
Who are they bringing in?

1159
00:58:40,427 --> 00:58:41,395
They hadn't said.

1160
00:58:41,428 --> 00:58:42,796
Mr. Chairman, if I may,

1161
00:58:42,830 --> 00:58:45,366
I'm nominated
for Commerce Secretary.

1162
00:58:45,399 --> 00:58:47,701
Why seek the opinion
of scientists?

1163
00:58:47,735 --> 00:58:50,070
This is a Cabinet post, Admiral.

1164
00:58:50,104 --> 00:58:52,273
We seek a wide range of opinion.

1165
00:58:52,306 --> 00:58:55,109
Well, I'd like to know the name
of the scientist testifying.

1166
00:58:55,142 --> 00:58:56,644
I'd like the chance
to cross-examine.

1167
00:58:56,677 --> 00:58:58,812
This is not a court.

1168
00:58:58,846 --> 00:59:01,248
Formality, huh?

1169
00:59:01,282 --> 00:59:02,550
No presidential Cabinet nominee

1170
00:59:02,583 --> 00:59:05,153
has failed to be confirmed
since 1925.

1171
00:59:05,186 --> 00:59:07,289
This is just how
the game is played.

1172
00:59:07,322 --> 00:59:08,623
It's in the bag, Lewis.

1173
00:59:08,657 --> 00:59:09,858
So play nice.

1174
00:59:09,891 --> 00:59:12,160
<i>They bring in a scientist,</i>
<i>so what?</i>

1175
00:59:12,193 --> 00:59:14,195
You don't know scientists
like I do, Counselor.

1176
00:59:14,229 --> 00:59:16,264
They resent anyone
who questions their judgment,

1177
00:59:16,298 --> 00:59:18,300
<i>especially if you're</i>
<i>not one of them.</i>

1178
00:59:18,333 --> 00:59:19,634
I was chair of the AEC.

1179
00:59:19,668 --> 00:59:22,103
I'm easy to blame
for what happened to Robert.

1180
00:59:22,137 --> 00:59:23,438
We can't have
the Senate thinking

1181
00:59:23,471 --> 00:59:26,575
the scientific community
doesn't support you, sir.

1182
00:59:26,608 --> 00:59:28,443
Or should we pivot?

1183
00:59:28,476 --> 00:59:30,445
-To what?
-And embrace it.

1184
00:59:30,478 --> 00:59:33,248
"I fought Oppenheimer,
and the US won."

1185
00:59:33,281 --> 00:59:34,849
I-I don't think
we need to go there.

1186
00:59:34,883 --> 00:59:37,152
Isn't there someone we can call
who knows what really happened?

1187
00:59:37,185 --> 00:59:38,620
-Teller.
-He'll make an impression.

1188
00:59:38,653 --> 00:59:40,722
Can you get the name of
the scientist they've called?

1189
00:59:40,755 --> 00:59:42,324
-Probably.
-Find out if he was

1190
00:59:42,357 --> 00:59:44,726
based in Chicago
or Los Alamos during the war.

1191
00:59:44,759 --> 00:59:46,127
Why does that matter?

1192
00:59:46,161 --> 00:59:47,362
Well, if he was
based in Chicago,

1193
00:59:47,395 --> 00:59:48,797
then he worked
under Szilard and Fermi,

1194
00:59:48,830 --> 00:59:51,132
not the cult of Oppie
at Los Alamos.

1195
00:59:51,166 --> 00:59:52,400
Robert built that damn place.

1196
00:59:52,434 --> 00:59:55,203
He was founder, mayor, sheriff,

1197
00:59:55,236 --> 00:59:56,638
all rolled into one.

1198
01:00:09,584 --> 01:00:11,386
All it needs is a saloon.

1199
01:00:39,814 --> 01:00:42,384
There's no kitchen.

1200
01:00:42,417 --> 01:00:46,354
Really? We'll fix that.

1201
01:00:52,260 --> 01:00:55,664
Barbed wire, guns.

1202
01:00:55,697 --> 01:00:56,798
Oppie.

1203
01:00:56,831 --> 01:00:58,466
We're at war, Hans.

1204
01:01:00,869 --> 01:01:03,438
Halifax. 1917.

1205
01:01:03,471 --> 01:01:06,441
A cargo ship carrying munitions
explodes in the harbor.

1206
01:01:08,843 --> 01:01:11,780
A vast and sudden
chemical reaction.

1207
01:01:15,450 --> 01:01:18,286
The biggest man-made
explosion in history.

1208
01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:20,288
Now let's calculate
how much more destructive

1209
01:01:20,321 --> 01:01:22,991
it would have been
if it were a nuclear

1210
01:01:23,025 --> 01:01:24,693
and not a chemical reaction.

1211
01:01:24,726 --> 01:01:28,364
Expressing power in terms
of tons of TNT.

1212
01:01:28,397 --> 01:01:29,899
But it will be thousands.

1213
01:01:29,932 --> 01:01:33,369
Well, then kilotons.

1214
01:01:36,939 --> 01:01:40,309
Using U-235,

1215
01:01:40,342 --> 01:01:42,912
-the bomb will need a...
-Uh-uh.

1216
01:01:42,945 --> 01:01:46,016
Sorry. Gadget will need
a 33-pound sphere

1217
01:01:46,049 --> 01:01:47,516
about this size.

1218
01:01:47,550 --> 01:01:51,353
Or using plutonium,
the ten-pound sphere.

1219
01:01:52,755 --> 01:01:53,989
Here's the amount of uranium

1220
01:01:54,024 --> 01:01:57,359
Oak Ridge refined
all of last month.

1221
01:01:59,762 --> 01:02:03,766
And the Hanford plant
made this much plutonium.

1222
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:08,003
Now, if we can enrich
these amounts,

1223
01:02:08,038 --> 01:02:10,840
we need a way to detonate them.

1224
01:02:10,873 --> 01:02:12,975
Are we boring you, Edward?

1225
01:02:13,008 --> 01:02:14,610
A little bit, yes.

1226
01:02:14,643 --> 01:02:15,878
May I ask why?

1227
01:02:15,911 --> 01:02:17,346
We all entered this room

1228
01:02:17,379 --> 01:02:19,315
knowing a fission bomb
was possible.

1229
01:02:19,348 --> 01:02:21,951
How 'bout we leave it
with something new?

1230
01:02:21,984 --> 01:02:22,985
Such as?

1231
01:02:23,019 --> 01:02:25,755
Instead of uranium or plutonium,

1232
01:02:25,788 --> 01:02:26,789
we use hydrogen.

1233
01:02:28,357 --> 01:02:29,959
-Heavy hydrogen.
-Hydrogen.

1234
01:02:29,992 --> 01:02:32,762
Deuterium. You see?

1235
01:02:32,795 --> 01:02:34,497
We compact the atoms together

1236
01:02:34,530 --> 01:02:37,600
under great pressure
to induce a fusion reaction.

1237
01:02:38,534 --> 01:02:41,370
Then we'll get not kilotons,

1238
01:02:41,403 --> 01:02:42,471
but megatons.

1239
01:02:42,505 --> 01:02:43,439
A big fission reaction...

1240
01:02:43,472 --> 01:02:45,041
Okay, hang on, hang on.

1241
01:02:45,075 --> 01:02:49,779
So how do you generate enough
force to fuse hydrogen atoms?

1242
01:02:49,812 --> 01:02:51,881
A small fission bomb.

1243
01:02:51,914 --> 01:02:53,616
There we are.

1244
01:02:55,551 --> 01:02:57,353
Well, since we're going
to need one anyway,

1245
01:02:57,386 --> 01:02:59,355
can we get back
to the business at hand?

1246
01:02:59,388 --> 01:03:00,723
The isotopes issue

1247
01:03:00,756 --> 01:03:04,393
wasn't your most important
policy disagreement

1248
01:03:04,426 --> 01:03:06,062
with Dr. Oppenheimer.

1249
01:03:06,096 --> 01:03:08,497
It was the hydrogen bomb,
wasn't it?

1250
01:03:08,531 --> 01:03:11,400
Uh, as colleagues,
we agreed to disagree

1251
01:03:11,433 --> 01:03:13,435
on a great many things, uh,

1252
01:03:13,469 --> 01:03:14,703
and, well, one of them

1253
01:03:14,737 --> 01:03:17,807
was the need
for an H-bomb program, yes.

1254
01:03:30,653 --> 01:03:33,422
Thanks for convening
on short notice.

1255
01:03:33,455 --> 01:03:34,924
I can't believe it.

1256
01:03:35,925 --> 01:03:37,459
Well, here we are.

1257
01:03:37,493 --> 01:03:39,495
Catch me up. What do we know?

1258
01:03:39,528 --> 01:03:42,032
One of our B-29s
over the North Pacific

1259
01:03:42,065 --> 01:03:43,566
has detected radiation.

1260
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:45,367
Do we have the filter papers?

1261
01:03:45,401 --> 01:03:47,404
There's no doubt what this is.

1262
01:03:47,437 --> 01:03:48,638
White House says
there's a doubt.

1263
01:03:48,672 --> 01:03:50,107
Wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

1264
01:03:50,141 --> 01:03:52,843
Are those the long-range
detection filter papers?

1265
01:03:53,777 --> 01:03:55,846
It's an atomic test.

1266
01:03:58,481 --> 01:03:59,883
The Russians have a bomb.

1267
01:03:59,916 --> 01:04:03,653
We're supposed to be years
ahead of them, but some...

1268
01:04:03,687 --> 01:04:05,989
What were you guys
doing at Los Alamos?

1269
01:04:06,023 --> 01:04:07,158
Wasn't security tight?

1270
01:04:07,191 --> 01:04:08,692
Of course it was.
You weren't there.

1271
01:04:08,725 --> 01:04:11,128
-It was...
-Forgive me, Doctor...

1272
01:04:11,162 --> 01:04:13,597
but I was there.

1273
01:04:14,664 --> 01:04:15,999
We can now consider

1274
01:04:16,033 --> 01:04:17,968
the actual mechanics
of detonation.

1275
01:04:18,001 --> 01:04:19,136
Any ideas?

1276
01:04:19,170 --> 01:04:20,904
I call this "shooting."

1277
01:04:20,937 --> 01:04:24,474
We fire a chunk of fissionable
material into a larger sphere

1278
01:04:24,507 --> 01:04:27,010
with enough force
to achieve criticality.

1279
01:04:27,044 --> 01:04:28,712
What do we think? Anyone?

1280
01:04:28,745 --> 01:04:30,547
I've been
thinking about implosion.

1281
01:04:30,580 --> 01:04:32,549
Explosives around the sphere
blast inwards,

1282
01:04:32,582 --> 01:04:34,618
crushing the material.

1283
01:04:34,651 --> 01:04:36,586
I'd like to investigate
that idea.

1284
01:04:36,620 --> 01:04:38,922
I'll talk to Ordnance,
get you blowing things up.

1285
01:04:39,923 --> 01:04:41,025
Progress?

1286
01:04:41,058 --> 01:04:42,893
Nice to see you too.

1287
01:04:42,926 --> 01:04:44,694
Meet the British contingent.

1288
01:04:44,728 --> 01:04:46,563
Dr. Oppenheimer, Klaus Fuchs.

1289
01:04:46,596 --> 01:04:48,465
How long have you been British?

1290
01:04:48,498 --> 01:04:49,699
Since Hitler told me
I wasn't German.

1291
01:04:49,733 --> 01:04:53,536
Uh-huh.
Come, welcome to Los Alamos.

1292
01:04:53,570 --> 01:04:55,438
School's up and running.

1293
01:04:55,472 --> 01:04:57,774
Bar. Always running.

1294
01:04:57,807 --> 01:05:00,810
And I thought of a way
to reduce support staff.

1295
01:05:01,778 --> 01:05:03,780
-Is that...
-Mrs. Serber, yes.

1296
01:05:03,813 --> 01:05:05,216
I've offered jobs
to all the wives.

1297
01:05:05,249 --> 01:05:06,716
Admin, librarians, computation.

1298
01:05:06,750 --> 01:05:09,053
We cut down on staff,
keep families together.

1299
01:05:09,086 --> 01:05:11,655
-Are these women qualified?
-Don't be absurd.

1300
01:05:11,688 --> 01:05:14,058
These are some of the brightest
minds in our community.

1301
01:05:14,091 --> 01:05:15,659
And they're already
security cleared.

1302
01:05:15,692 --> 01:05:17,560
I've informed General Groves
you've been holding

1303
01:05:17,594 --> 01:05:19,063
cross-divisional
open discussions

1304
01:05:19,096 --> 01:05:20,797
-on a nightly basis.
-Shut them down.

1305
01:05:20,830 --> 01:05:23,167
Compartmentalization is the
key to maintaining security...

1306
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,701
It's only the top men.

1307
01:05:24,734 --> 01:05:26,569
Who presumably communicate
with subordinates.

1308
01:05:26,603 --> 01:05:27,804
These men aren't stupid.

1309
01:05:27,837 --> 01:05:29,673
-They can be discreet.
-I don't like it.

1310
01:05:29,706 --> 01:05:32,609
You don't like anything enough
for that to be a fair test.

1311
01:05:38,149 --> 01:05:40,684
Once a week. Top men only.

1312
01:05:40,717 --> 01:05:42,086
I'd like to bring
my brother here.

1313
01:05:42,119 --> 01:05:43,586
No.

1314
01:05:44,221 --> 01:05:45,989
Uh, Nichols...

1315
01:05:47,124 --> 01:05:49,060
I still haven't heard
that my security clearance

1316
01:05:49,093 --> 01:05:50,660
-has been approved.
-It hasn't.

1317
01:05:50,694 --> 01:05:52,063
We're going to Chicago tomorrow.

1318
01:05:52,096 --> 01:05:53,130
No, you should wait.

1319
01:05:54,332 --> 01:05:55,433
You are aware that the Nazis
have a two-year head start.

1320
01:05:55,465 --> 01:05:58,535
Dr. Oppenheimer, the fact
that your security clearance

1321
01:05:58,568 --> 01:06:00,570
is proving difficult to obtain
is not my fault.

1322
01:06:00,603 --> 01:06:01,871
It's yours.

1323
01:06:01,905 --> 01:06:03,840
May not be your fault,
but it's your problem.

1324
01:06:03,873 --> 01:06:04,874
Because I'm going.

1325
01:06:04,908 --> 01:06:08,679
And how many people
were in these, uh,

1326
01:06:08,713 --> 01:06:10,915
-open discussions?
-Too many.

1327
01:06:10,948 --> 01:06:12,284
Compartmentalization was
supposed to be the protocol.

1328
01:06:12,317 --> 01:06:14,252
We were in a race
against the Nazis.

1329
01:06:14,286 --> 01:06:16,721
And now the race
is against the Soviets.

1330
01:06:16,754 --> 01:06:18,256
-Not unless we start it.
-Robert.

1331
01:06:18,290 --> 01:06:21,692
They just fired a starting gun.

1332
01:06:21,726 --> 01:06:23,694
What's the nature
of the device they detonated?

1333
01:06:23,728 --> 01:06:25,263
The data indicates
it may have been

1334
01:06:25,297 --> 01:06:27,598
a plutonium implosion device.

1335
01:06:27,631 --> 01:06:30,735
Like the one you built
at Los Alamos.

1336
01:06:30,768 --> 01:06:32,603
The Russians have a bomb,

1337
01:06:32,636 --> 01:06:33,904
Truman needs to know
what's next.

1338
01:06:33,938 --> 01:06:35,740
What's next? Arms talks.

1339
01:06:35,773 --> 01:06:37,641
-Arms talks.
-Obviously.

1340
01:06:38,576 --> 01:06:39,777
What about the Super?

1341
01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:41,545
Does Truman even know about it?

1342
01:06:41,579 --> 01:06:43,581
Did we brief him on that?

1343
01:06:43,614 --> 01:06:44,682
Not specifically.

1344
01:06:44,715 --> 01:06:46,018
We still don't know

1345
01:06:46,051 --> 01:06:47,818
if a hydrogen bomb's
technically feasible.

1346
01:06:47,852 --> 01:06:49,754
Right, my understanding
is that Teller proposed it?

1347
01:06:49,787 --> 01:06:51,622
-Yes.
-At Los Alamos?

1348
01:06:51,655 --> 01:06:53,291
Teller's designs have always
been wildly impractical.

1349
01:06:53,325 --> 01:06:55,659
You'd have to deliver
by ox cart.

1350
01:06:55,693 --> 01:06:56,961
-Not airplane.
-Oppie.

1351
01:06:56,994 --> 01:07:00,698
I'm sorry, Dr. Lawrence,
you want to comment?

1352
01:07:01,932 --> 01:07:03,035
No.

1353
01:07:04,902 --> 01:07:07,172
Because if it can
put us ahead again,

1354
01:07:07,205 --> 01:07:10,242
the President
of the United States

1355
01:07:10,275 --> 01:07:12,277
needs to know about it.

1356
01:07:13,811 --> 01:07:15,613
And if the Russians
know about it already,

1357
01:07:15,646 --> 01:07:18,649
from a spy at Los Alamos,

1358
01:07:18,682 --> 01:07:19,984
then we've gotta get going.

1359
01:07:20,018 --> 01:07:22,987
There's no proof there was
a spy at Los Alamos.

1360
01:07:23,021 --> 01:07:24,089
Robert.

1361
01:07:28,926 --> 01:07:30,694
They put it under
the football stadium?

1362
01:07:30,728 --> 01:07:32,663
The field's not in use anymore.

1363
01:07:32,696 --> 01:07:34,932
Just as well.

1364
01:07:36,234 --> 01:07:38,669
-Oppie.
-Dr. Fermi.

1365
01:07:41,373 --> 01:07:42,706
I hear you got a little town.

1366
01:07:42,740 --> 01:07:43,974
Yes. Come and see.

1367
01:07:45,709 --> 01:07:49,814
Who could think straight
in a place like that? Huh?

1368
01:07:49,847 --> 01:07:51,782
Everybody will go crazy.

1369
01:07:51,816 --> 01:07:55,686
Thank you for the vote
of confidence, Szilard.

1370
01:07:55,719 --> 01:07:59,357
Do we really... do we really
need that in the notes?

1371
01:07:59,391 --> 01:08:01,826
When are you going
to try it out?

1372
01:08:01,859 --> 01:08:02,893
We did.

1373
01:08:02,927 --> 01:08:07,299
The first self-sustaining
nuclear chain reaction.

1374
01:08:07,332 --> 01:08:08,966
Didn't Groves tell you?

1375
01:08:08,999 --> 01:08:10,634
No.

1376
01:08:15,140 --> 01:08:18,243
One at a time, please,
one at a time.

1377
01:08:18,276 --> 01:08:19,743
Dr. Oppenheimer?

1378
01:08:20,845 --> 01:08:23,315
I tried Personnel.
They asked if I could type.

1379
01:08:23,348 --> 01:08:24,648
Can you?

1380
01:08:24,682 --> 01:08:25,816
Harvard forgot to teach that

1381
01:08:25,850 --> 01:08:27,685
on the graduate
chemistry course.

1382
01:08:29,054 --> 01:08:31,957
Condon, put Mrs. Hornig here
on the plutonium team.

1383
01:08:37,729 --> 01:08:39,398
What the hell
were you doing in Chicago?

1384
01:08:39,432 --> 01:08:40,899
Visiting the Met?

1385
01:08:40,932 --> 01:08:41,933
-Why? Why?
-Well, you can't talk to...

1386
01:08:41,967 --> 01:08:44,002
Because we have every right...

1387
01:08:44,036 --> 01:08:46,372
You have just the rights
that I give you.

1388
01:08:46,405 --> 01:08:47,873
No more, no less.

1389
01:08:47,906 --> 01:08:50,343
We are adults
trying to run a project here.

1390
01:08:50,376 --> 01:08:52,078
This is ridiculous.

1391
01:08:52,111 --> 01:08:53,879
Tell him.

1392
01:08:53,912 --> 01:08:57,049
Compartmentalization
is the protocol we agreed to.

1393
01:08:58,184 --> 01:08:59,418
Enough of this madhouse.

1394
01:08:59,452 --> 01:09:01,820
Nobody can work
under these conditions.

1395
01:09:01,853 --> 01:09:06,292
You know what, Generalissimo?
I quit.

1396
01:09:06,325 --> 01:09:07,726
Thanks for nothing.

1397
01:09:09,828 --> 01:09:11,330
Better off without him.

1398
01:09:12,764 --> 01:09:13,798
Aren't you more concerned

1399
01:09:13,832 --> 01:09:16,202
about his discretion out there?

1400
01:09:16,235 --> 01:09:18,638
We'll have him killed.

1401
01:09:19,472 --> 01:09:22,041
I was just kidding.

1402
01:09:22,074 --> 01:09:25,010
-No, he hates me, not America.
-You know, General,

1403
01:09:25,044 --> 01:09:27,380
not everyone has levers
to pull like mine.

1404
01:09:27,413 --> 01:09:29,248
I don't think I understand.

1405
01:09:29,282 --> 01:09:31,450
You didn't hire me
despite my left-wing past.

1406
01:09:31,484 --> 01:09:33,219
You hired me because of it.

1407
01:09:34,220 --> 01:09:36,189
So you could control me.

1408
01:09:36,222 --> 01:09:38,823
Well, I'm not that subtle.

1409
01:09:38,857 --> 01:09:40,892
I'm just a humble soldier.

1410
01:09:40,926 --> 01:09:42,428
You're neither humble
nor just a soldier.

1411
01:09:42,461 --> 01:09:43,462
You studied engineering at MIT.

1412
01:09:43,496 --> 01:09:45,331
Guilty as charged.

1413
01:09:45,364 --> 01:09:46,865
Well, now we understand
each other,

1414
01:09:46,898 --> 01:09:48,334
perhaps you can get me
my security clearance

1415
01:09:48,367 --> 01:09:51,170
so I can perform
this miracle for you.

1416
01:09:56,075 --> 01:09:57,809
<i>General Groves, were you aware</i>

1417
01:09:57,842 --> 01:10:00,146
<i>of Dr. Oppenheimer's</i>
<i>left-wing associations</i>

1418
01:10:00,179 --> 01:10:01,846
<i>when you appointed him?</i>

1419
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,516
I was aware that there
were suspicions about him.

1420
01:10:03,549 --> 01:10:05,418
I was aware he had
a very extreme

1421
01:10:05,451 --> 01:10:06,818
liberal background.

1422
01:10:06,851 --> 01:10:08,454
In your opinion,
would he ever consciously

1423
01:10:08,487 --> 01:10:09,788
commit a disloyal act?

1424
01:10:09,821 --> 01:10:11,424
I would be amazed if he did.

1425
01:10:11,457 --> 01:10:14,527
So you had complete
confidence in his integrity.

1426
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:15,961
At Los Alamos, yes,

1427
01:10:15,994 --> 01:10:17,330
which is where
I really knew him.

1428
01:10:17,363 --> 01:10:19,332
General,
did your security officers

1429
01:10:19,365 --> 01:10:20,832
on the project advise you

1430
01:10:20,865 --> 01:10:22,335
against the clearance
of Dr. Oppenheimer?

1431
01:10:22,368 --> 01:10:26,172
They could not and would not
clear him until I insisted.

1432
01:10:26,205 --> 01:10:28,840
And it's safe to say that you
had a pretty good knowledge

1433
01:10:28,873 --> 01:10:30,109
of Dr. Oppenheimer's
security file.

1434
01:10:30,142 --> 01:10:31,810
I did.

1435
01:10:31,843 --> 01:10:33,011
Well, then there's only
really one question

1436
01:10:33,045 --> 01:10:34,513
I need answered here today.

1437
01:10:34,547 --> 01:10:36,249
In light of
the current AEC guidelines,

1438
01:10:36,282 --> 01:10:38,984
would you clear
Dr. Oppenheimer today?

1439
01:10:39,018 --> 01:10:41,087
Do you have the guidelines?

1440
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,830
Under current AEC guidelines,

1441
01:10:50,863 --> 01:10:52,898
would you clear
Dr. Oppenheimer today?

1442
01:11:05,112 --> 01:11:08,914
Physics and New Mexico, huh?

1443
01:11:08,948 --> 01:11:11,984
My God. What a trek.

1444
01:11:12,019 --> 01:11:13,487
That's why you need a liaison.

1445
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,055
I'm appointing Lomanitz.

1446
01:11:16,223 --> 01:11:17,291
You're gonna be okay.

1447
01:11:17,324 --> 01:11:18,492
This way, gentlemen.

1448
01:11:28,468 --> 01:11:30,304
-Dr. Lawrence.
-Leslie.

1449
01:11:30,337 --> 01:11:32,905
I'd like to remind you what
we talked about in Berkeley.

1450
01:11:32,938 --> 01:11:35,275
Compartmentalization.
I understand completely.

1451
01:11:38,445 --> 01:11:39,446
Okay.

1452
01:11:40,614 --> 01:11:42,049
Thank you.

1453
01:11:49,955 --> 01:11:51,191
<i>Greetings from Berkeley.</i>

1454
01:11:51,224 --> 01:11:53,360
I am here to update you
on our progress

1455
01:11:53,393 --> 01:11:54,927
and solicit your input.

1456
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,330
To do so,
I am going to have to share

1457
01:11:56,363 --> 01:12:00,033
a few things that
General Groves told me not to.

1458
01:12:00,067 --> 01:12:01,867
Sorry, General,
I said I understood,

1459
01:12:01,901 --> 01:12:02,968
not that I agreed.

1460
01:12:03,002 --> 01:12:04,538
'Kay.

1461
01:12:04,571 --> 01:12:06,606
Gentlemen, to business.

1462
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,008
There were rumors of espionage
at Los Alamos.

1463
01:12:09,042 --> 01:12:10,510
Unsubstantiated.
Unsubstantiated.

1464
01:12:10,544 --> 01:12:12,011
I'm told

1465
01:12:12,045 --> 01:12:13,347
that there were Communists
on the project.

1466
01:12:13,380 --> 01:12:15,148
We didn't knowingly
employ any Communists.

1467
01:12:15,182 --> 01:12:16,949
I just want to know,
were any of them involved

1468
01:12:16,982 --> 01:12:18,452
in discussions of the Super?

1469
01:12:18,485 --> 01:12:20,654
I seem to remember you demanding
your brother come to Los Alamos.

1470
01:12:20,687 --> 01:12:22,955
My brother had left
the Party by then.

1471
01:12:22,988 --> 01:12:24,224
What about Lomanitz?

1472
01:12:24,257 --> 01:12:25,991
Lomanitz was never
employed at Los Alamos.

1473
01:12:26,026 --> 01:12:27,027
He was a liaison.

1474
01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:28,228
Our security was tight,

1475
01:12:28,261 --> 01:12:29,629
as former Colonel Nichols
well knows.

1476
01:12:29,663 --> 01:12:31,231
Our security was as tight
as it could be

1477
01:12:31,264 --> 01:12:32,632
given the personalities
involved,

1478
01:12:32,666 --> 01:12:34,501
but attempts were made.

1479
01:12:34,534 --> 01:12:35,535
What is that supposed to mean?

1480
01:12:35,569 --> 01:12:37,137
We've all read his file here.

1481
01:12:38,171 --> 01:12:40,173
Do we need to talk
about Jean Tatlock?

1482
01:12:40,707 --> 01:12:42,875
Or the Chevalier incident?

1483
01:12:47,481 --> 01:12:48,881
'Scuse me.

1484
01:12:52,185 --> 01:12:54,154
That's Lomanitz, line one.

1485
01:13:00,026 --> 01:13:01,061
Hello, Rossi.

1486
01:13:01,094 --> 01:13:04,297
<i>What? O-Okay, just calm down.</i>

1487
01:13:05,265 --> 01:13:08,502
There's been another screw-up.
Lomanitz just got drafted.

1488
01:13:08,535 --> 01:13:11,003
-We are at war, Doctor.
-Don't be an asshole, Nichols.

1489
01:13:11,037 --> 01:13:13,040
We need this kid.
Fix it, will you?

1490
01:13:13,074 --> 01:13:14,275
It wasn't a mistake.

1491
01:13:14,308 --> 01:13:15,643
Your friend Lomanitz
has been trying

1492
01:13:15,676 --> 01:13:17,944
to unionize the Radiation Lab.

1493
01:13:17,978 --> 01:13:19,280
He promised to quit all that.

1494
01:13:19,313 --> 01:13:21,215
Well, he hasn't.

1495
01:13:21,249 --> 01:13:23,117
Security officer at Berkeley's
concerned about

1496
01:13:23,151 --> 01:13:25,453
Communist infiltration
through that union,

1497
01:13:25,486 --> 01:13:28,089
-the F.A...
-F.A.E.C.T.

1498
01:13:30,491 --> 01:13:34,195
While I'm there next week,
I'll drop in to see him.

1499
01:13:36,464 --> 01:13:38,199
Your Q clearance came through.

1500
01:13:41,736 --> 01:13:43,171
It's important
you not maintain or renew

1501
01:13:43,204 --> 01:13:45,473
any questionable associations.

1502
01:13:50,211 --> 01:13:52,713
<i>Doctor, did you think</i>
<i>social contacts</i>

1503
01:13:52,747 --> 01:13:55,082
between a person engaged
on secret war work

1504
01:13:55,116 --> 01:13:56,484
and Communists was dangerous?

1505
01:13:56,517 --> 01:14:00,188
My awareness of the danger
would be greater today.

1506
01:14:00,221 --> 01:14:03,124
I mean, it's fair to say
that during the war years,

1507
01:14:03,157 --> 01:14:06,360
<i>you felt that such contacts</i>
<i>were potentially dangerous.</i>

1508
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,770
<i>Were conceivably dangerous, yes.</i>

1509
01:14:15,803 --> 01:14:18,072
<i>I mean, really,</i>

1510
01:14:18,105 --> 01:14:20,141
<i>known Communists.</i>

1511
01:14:22,276 --> 01:14:24,512
<i>Look...</i>

1512
01:14:24,545 --> 01:14:26,080
I've had a lot of secrets

1513
01:14:26,113 --> 01:14:29,083
<i>in my head for a long time.</i>

1514
01:14:30,051 --> 01:14:31,319
<i>Doesn't matter</i>
<i>who I associate with.</i>

1515
01:14:31,352 --> 01:14:34,255
I don't talk about
those secrets.

1516
01:14:41,662 --> 01:14:43,297
You said in your statement

1517
01:14:43,331 --> 01:14:49,270
that you had to see
Jean Tatlock in 1943.

1518
01:14:50,738 --> 01:14:52,406
You left.

1519
01:14:53,641 --> 01:14:55,076
Not a word.

1520
01:14:55,109 --> 01:14:57,578
What did you think
that would do to me?

1521
01:14:58,679 --> 01:14:59,747
I wrote.

1522
01:14:59,780 --> 01:15:02,183
Pages of nothing.

1523
01:15:04,452 --> 01:15:06,787
Where did you go?

1524
01:15:06,821 --> 01:15:09,257
-I can't tell you.
-Why not?

1525
01:15:09,290 --> 01:15:12,026
Because you're a Communist.

1526
01:15:13,561 --> 01:15:15,429
Why did you have to see her?

1527
01:15:15,463 --> 01:15:18,566
Because she had indicated
a great desire

1528
01:15:18,599 --> 01:15:20,268
to see me before we left.

1529
01:15:20,301 --> 01:15:21,469
At that time, I couldn't,

1530
01:15:21,502 --> 01:15:25,306
but I felt that
she had to see me.

1531
01:15:25,339 --> 01:15:27,842
She was undergoing
psychiatric treatment.

1532
01:15:27,875 --> 01:15:30,111
She was extremely unhappy.

1533
01:15:30,144 --> 01:15:32,146
Did you find out
why she had to see you?

1534
01:15:37,252 --> 01:15:39,321
Because she was
still in love with me.

1535
01:15:46,528 --> 01:15:48,597
Spent the night together,
didn't you?

1536
01:15:56,572 --> 01:15:57,606
Yes.

1537
01:16:03,278 --> 01:16:07,149
You drop in and out of my life,

1538
01:16:07,182 --> 01:16:09,651
and you don't
have to tell me why.

1539
01:16:09,685 --> 01:16:11,153
Now that's power.

1540
01:16:11,186 --> 01:16:13,221
Not that I enjoy.

1541
01:16:14,189 --> 01:16:16,325
I'd rather be here
for you as you need.

1542
01:16:16,358 --> 01:16:18,827
But you have
other priorities now.

1543
01:16:18,860 --> 01:16:21,630
I have a wife and child.

1544
01:16:22,631 --> 01:16:25,434
That's not what either of us
is talking about.

1545
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:30,739
Jean.

1546
01:16:30,772 --> 01:16:32,908
You asked me to come.

1547
01:16:32,941 --> 01:16:35,310
And I'm glad I did.

1548
01:16:35,944 --> 01:16:38,513
But I can't see you again.

1549
01:16:40,916 --> 01:16:42,618
But what if I need you?

1550
01:16:46,188 --> 01:16:49,157
You said you would
always answer.

1551
01:16:51,627 --> 01:16:52,761
Not a word?

1552
01:16:54,030 --> 01:16:55,098
<i>Did you think that</i>
<i>consistent with good security?</i>

1553
01:16:55,130 --> 01:16:57,799
As a matter of fact, it was.

1554
01:16:57,833 --> 01:17:00,202
<i>Not a word.</i>

1555
01:17:00,235 --> 01:17:02,404
When did you
see her after that?

1556
01:17:10,812 --> 01:17:12,481
I never saw her again.

1557
01:17:18,687 --> 01:17:21,323
I can make the last train
back to Princeton.

1558
01:17:21,356 --> 01:17:24,526
Kitty, I didn't say anything
that I hadn't already told you.

1559
01:17:24,559 --> 01:17:26,695
Today you said it to history,
didn't you?

1560
01:17:26,728 --> 01:17:28,263
This is a closed hearing.

1561
01:17:29,965 --> 01:17:31,566
If they don't release
the transcript,

1562
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,602
-I'm sure you will.
-I was under oath.

1563
01:17:33,635 --> 01:17:35,404
Well, you were
under an oath for me

1564
01:17:35,437 --> 01:17:37,239
when you went to see Jean.

1565
01:17:37,906 --> 01:17:39,341
You know, you...

1566
01:17:40,242 --> 01:17:42,544
...you sit there, day after day,

1567
01:17:42,577 --> 01:17:45,614
letting them pick our lives
to pieces.

1568
01:17:48,617 --> 01:17:50,318
Why won't you fight?

1569
01:17:53,455 --> 01:17:56,592
Robert, I'm not
putting her up there.

1570
01:18:01,731 --> 01:18:04,600
Dr. Oppenheimer, it's an honor.
Please, take a seat.

1571
01:18:04,634 --> 01:18:08,237
No need, um, I just wanted
to check whether I should

1572
01:18:08,271 --> 01:18:10,440
talk to Lomanitz while I'm here,
given your concerns.

1573
01:18:10,473 --> 01:18:12,575
Well, I'd say that's really
up to you, Professor,

1574
01:18:12,608 --> 01:18:14,777
-but I'd be cautious.
-Uh-huh. Understood.

1575
01:18:14,811 --> 01:18:17,547
Oh, and, um,
as regards to the union,

1576
01:18:17,580 --> 01:18:19,348
I wanted to give you
a heads-up on a...

1577
01:18:19,382 --> 01:18:20,717
on a man named Eltenton.

1578
01:18:20,750 --> 01:18:22,251
A heads-up?

1579
01:18:22,285 --> 01:18:26,222
Yes, just that he might
merit watching is all.

1580
01:18:27,024 --> 01:18:28,458
Well, I'd love
to get more details.

1581
01:18:28,491 --> 01:18:30,827
Well, I...
I have an appointment now

1582
01:18:30,860 --> 01:18:32,295
and I leave early tomorrow.

1583
01:18:32,328 --> 01:18:33,863
Well, come back
as early as you like.

1584
01:18:33,896 --> 01:18:36,232
Since you haven't time now.

1585
01:18:36,899 --> 01:18:38,735
You went back the next morning.

1586
01:18:38,768 --> 01:18:40,770
I did, I had to, really.

1587
01:18:41,704 --> 01:18:44,307
<i>This time, there was</i>
<i>another man.</i>

1588
01:18:44,974 --> 01:18:46,476
He said his name's Pash.

1589
01:18:46,509 --> 01:18:49,011
Pash. You met Colonel Pash?

1590
01:18:49,046 --> 01:18:50,580
Colonel Pash,
could you please read

1591
01:18:50,613 --> 01:18:54,417
from your memo
dated June 29, 1943?

1592
01:18:56,519 --> 01:18:58,621
"Results of surveillance
conducted on subject

1593
01:18:58,654 --> 01:19:01,491
"indicate further possible
Communist Party connections.

1594
01:19:01,524 --> 01:19:03,693
"Subject met with
and spent considerable time

1595
01:19:03,726 --> 01:19:05,928
"with one Jean Tatlock,
Communist,

1596
01:19:05,962 --> 01:19:07,430
the record of whom is attached."

1597
01:19:07,463 --> 01:19:09,332
The subject being
Dr. Oppenheimer?

1598
01:19:09,365 --> 01:19:11,834
-Yes.
-Whom you had not met?

1599
01:19:11,868 --> 01:19:13,669
Not then, but soon after.

1600
01:19:13,703 --> 01:19:15,072
He's the head of security
for the project.

1601
01:19:15,105 --> 01:19:16,339
Shouldn't I know him?

1602
01:19:16,372 --> 01:19:17,707
No, he should know you.

1603
01:19:17,740 --> 01:19:19,642
I would never put you
in a room with Pash.

1604
01:19:19,675 --> 01:19:20,943
Why not?

1605
01:19:20,977 --> 01:19:23,046
When Pash first heard
about Lomanitz,

1606
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,015
he told the FBI
he was gonna kidnap him,

1607
01:19:26,049 --> 01:19:27,517
take him out on a boat

1608
01:19:27,550 --> 01:19:30,553
and interrogate him
in the Russian manner.

1609
01:19:32,688 --> 01:19:35,525
General Groves has placed in me
a certain responsibility,

1610
01:19:35,558 --> 01:19:37,794
and it's like having a child
who I can't see.

1611
01:19:37,827 --> 01:19:39,929
-Ah.
-By remote control.

1612
01:19:39,962 --> 01:19:43,566
So to actually meet you is...

1613
01:19:44,667 --> 01:19:46,103
I won't take up
too much of your time.

1614
01:19:46,136 --> 01:19:48,404
No, no, not at all.
Whatever time you choose.

1615
01:19:48,437 --> 01:19:51,340
Mm. Mr. Johnson told me
of a conversation

1616
01:19:51,374 --> 01:19:53,110
you had yesterday
in which I'm very interested.

1617
01:19:53,143 --> 01:19:55,411
It's had me worried all day.

1618
01:19:55,444 --> 01:19:57,947
Yes, well, I didn't want
to talk to Lomanitz

1619
01:19:57,980 --> 01:19:59,515
without authorization.

1620
01:19:59,549 --> 01:20:00,750
That's not the particular
interest that I have.

1621
01:20:00,783 --> 01:20:02,752
It's something
a little bit more...

1622
01:20:03,786 --> 01:20:05,555
...well, in my opinion,
more serious.

1623
01:20:05,588 --> 01:20:08,524
Now, when the FBI pointed out
that such information

1624
01:20:08,558 --> 01:20:10,093
wouldn't be admissible in court,
Pash made it clear

1625
01:20:10,127 --> 01:20:13,896
he had no intention of leaving
any witness left to prosecute.

1626
01:20:13,930 --> 01:20:15,498
Now, the FBI talked him down,

1627
01:20:15,531 --> 01:20:17,101
but that's the man
you're dancing with.

1628
01:20:17,135 --> 01:20:19,837
I gather you've heard
there are other parties

1629
01:20:19,870 --> 01:20:22,573
interested in the work
of the Radiation Lab.

1630
01:20:22,606 --> 01:20:26,510
A man attached
to the Soviet Consul

1631
01:20:26,543 --> 01:20:29,580
indicated,
through intermediate people,

1632
01:20:29,613 --> 01:20:31,149
to people on this project,

1633
01:20:31,182 --> 01:20:34,618
that he was in a position
to transmit information.

1634
01:20:34,651 --> 01:20:37,487
Oh, why would anyone
on the project want to do that?

1635
01:20:38,922 --> 01:20:41,458
Frankly, I can see that
there might be an argument

1636
01:20:41,491 --> 01:20:43,894
for the Commander-in-Chief
informing the Russians--

1637
01:20:43,927 --> 01:20:45,796
they're our allies after all--

1638
01:20:45,829 --> 01:20:48,732
but I don't like the idea of it
going out the back door.

1639
01:20:48,765 --> 01:20:51,501
It might not hurt
to be on the lookout for it.

1640
01:20:52,903 --> 01:20:54,072
And you said that to Pash?

1641
01:20:54,105 --> 01:20:55,606
I was trying to put it

1642
01:20:55,639 --> 01:20:58,475
in a context
of Russia's not Germany.

1643
01:20:58,508 --> 01:21:02,913
Boris Pash is the son
of a Russian Orthodox bishop.

1644
01:21:02,946 --> 01:21:06,450
Born here, but in 1918,
he went back to Russia

1645
01:21:06,483 --> 01:21:07,918
to fight the Bolsheviks.

1646
01:21:07,951 --> 01:21:10,121
This is a man who has killed
Communists with his own hands.

1647
01:21:10,154 --> 01:21:13,624
I'm not the judge of who should
or should not have information.

1648
01:21:13,657 --> 01:21:15,692
It's my business to stop it
from going through illegally.

1649
01:21:15,726 --> 01:21:17,928
Would you be
a little more specific?

1650
01:21:20,797 --> 01:21:23,667
There's a man whose name
was mentioned to me

1651
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:25,802
a couple of times. Eltenton.

1652
01:21:26,837 --> 01:21:29,940
Uh, I believe he's a chemist
who works at Shell.

1653
01:21:29,973 --> 01:21:32,509
He talked to a friend of his

1654
01:21:32,542 --> 01:21:36,446
who's an acquaintance
of someone on the project.

1655
01:21:37,681 --> 01:21:40,118
And you thought Pash
would be satisfied with that?

1656
01:21:40,151 --> 01:21:42,686
I was attempting
to give them Eltenton

1657
01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:44,055
without opening a can of worms.

1658
01:21:44,088 --> 01:21:46,057
I told them
a cock-and-bull story.

1659
01:21:46,090 --> 01:21:47,624
Did you lie
to General Groves too?

1660
01:21:47,658 --> 01:21:51,195
No. I admitted to him
that I'd lied to Pash.

1661
01:21:51,229 --> 01:21:52,663
Do you recall this conversation

1662
01:21:52,696 --> 01:21:55,099
about the Chevalier incident?

1663
01:21:55,133 --> 01:21:57,534
I've seen so many
versions of it. Um...

1664
01:21:57,567 --> 01:21:58,735
Wasn't confused before,

1665
01:21:58,769 --> 01:22:00,204
but I'm certainly
getting there now.

1666
01:22:00,238 --> 01:22:01,538
And what was your conclusion?

1667
01:22:01,571 --> 01:22:03,941
That he was under
the influence of

1668
01:22:03,974 --> 01:22:06,843
the typical American
schoolboy attitude

1669
01:22:06,877 --> 01:22:10,480
that there's something wicked
about telling on a friend.

1670
01:22:10,514 --> 01:22:12,549
Well, now.

1671
01:22:12,582 --> 01:22:15,018
Might we know through whom
the contact was made?

1672
01:22:15,053 --> 01:22:17,255
That would in... involve people

1673
01:22:17,288 --> 01:22:19,257
who are not to be
involved in this.

1674
01:22:19,290 --> 01:22:22,060
Is that someone
a member of the project?

1675
01:22:22,093 --> 01:22:26,630
A member of the faculty, yes,
but not in the project, no.

1676
01:22:26,663 --> 01:22:27,764
Ah.

1677
01:22:27,798 --> 01:22:29,566
So Eltenton made his approach

1678
01:22:29,599 --> 01:22:32,836
through a member of
the faculty here at Berkeley?

1679
01:22:34,571 --> 01:22:37,041
As far as I know.
As far as I know, yes.

1680
01:22:37,075 --> 01:22:39,711
But there-there may have been

1681
01:22:39,744 --> 01:22:42,480
more than one person involved.

1682
01:22:45,883 --> 01:22:49,088
Gentlemen, if I...
if I seem uncooperative,

1683
01:22:49,121 --> 01:22:52,057
I think you can understand
that's because of my insistence

1684
01:22:52,091 --> 01:22:54,692
in not getting
innocent people into trouble.

1685
01:22:54,726 --> 01:22:56,527
<i>You're trying</i>
<i>to protect your friend.</i>

1686
01:22:56,561 --> 01:22:57,795
Who's protecting you?

1687
01:22:57,829 --> 01:22:59,231
Well, you could.

1688
01:22:59,264 --> 01:23:00,598
If you gave me the name.

1689
01:23:00,631 --> 01:23:02,567
If you order me to, I'll do it.

1690
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:03,634
That's a mistake, Robert.

1691
01:23:03,668 --> 01:23:05,503
You need to volunteer this name.

1692
01:23:06,338 --> 01:23:08,006
<i>And did he give you the name?</i>

1693
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:09,174
<i>He did.</i>

1694
01:23:09,208 --> 01:23:10,675
-But not then, did he?
-No.

1695
01:23:10,708 --> 01:23:12,177
No. In fact, it was some
months later, wasn't it?

1696
01:23:12,211 --> 01:23:14,113
It was.

1697
01:23:14,146 --> 01:23:15,247
You see me as persistent.

1698
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,015
Well, you are...

1699
01:23:17,049 --> 01:23:18,883
you are persistent,
but that is your job.

1700
01:23:18,916 --> 01:23:22,620
And-and my job is to protect
the people that work for me.

1701
01:23:22,653 --> 01:23:24,655
Instead of us going
on certain steps,

1702
01:23:24,689 --> 01:23:26,791
which may come
to your attention...

1703
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,927
...and be disturbing to you,

1704
01:23:29,961 --> 01:23:33,065
I would like to discuss
those with you first.

1705
01:23:33,098 --> 01:23:34,599
I'm not formulating a plan.

1706
01:23:34,632 --> 01:23:36,968
I'll just have to digest
the whole thing.

1707
01:23:40,605 --> 01:23:43,308
<i>In the months</i>
<i>in between your interview</i>

1708
01:23:43,342 --> 01:23:46,978
with Dr. Oppenheimer and his
eventual naming of Chevalier,

1709
01:23:47,011 --> 01:23:48,313
did you expend resources

1710
01:23:48,347 --> 01:23:49,814
trying to find the name
of the intermediary?

1711
01:23:49,847 --> 01:23:52,317
Considerable resources, yes.

1712
01:23:52,351 --> 01:23:54,585
Without the name, our job
was extremely difficult.

1713
01:23:54,619 --> 01:23:56,055
And when did you
receive the name?

1714
01:23:56,088 --> 01:23:57,322
I was gone by the time

1715
01:23:57,356 --> 01:23:59,791
-Oppenheimer finally
offered it up. -Gone?

1716
01:23:59,824 --> 01:24:01,993
They felt my time would be
better spent in Europe

1717
01:24:02,027 --> 01:24:04,762
determining the status
of the Nazi bomb project.

1718
01:24:04,796 --> 01:24:05,963
Who did?

1719
01:24:07,066 --> 01:24:08,800
General Groves.

1720
01:24:08,833 --> 01:24:10,601
He transferred me to London.

1721
01:24:17,042 --> 01:24:19,144
<i>It's a little early</i>
<i>for a Christmas party.</i>

1722
01:24:19,178 --> 01:24:21,180
Something's up.

1723
01:24:21,213 --> 01:24:23,248
Tolman's been away.

1724
01:24:23,282 --> 01:24:24,982
Where?

1725
01:24:25,016 --> 01:24:26,584
Ruth won't tell.

1726
01:24:31,123 --> 01:24:32,124
Hey!

1727
01:24:36,295 --> 01:24:37,829
Come on, Ruthie.

1728
01:24:37,862 --> 01:24:39,931
Can't tell me, who can you tell?

1729
01:24:39,964 --> 01:24:42,700
Compartmentalization, Oppie.

1730
01:24:42,733 --> 01:24:44,103
What makes you think
I know where he is anyway?

1731
01:24:44,136 --> 01:24:45,837
'Cause you do a pretty good job

1732
01:24:45,870 --> 01:24:48,639
of knowing where Mr. Tolman is
when it counts.

1733
01:24:48,673 --> 01:24:50,209
Like now?

1734
01:24:50,242 --> 01:24:53,678
Attention!

1735
01:24:56,881 --> 01:24:58,816
Early Christmas present
for you all.

1736
01:25:06,892 --> 01:25:09,262
<i>The British pilots</i>
<i>put me in the bomb bay.</i>

1737
01:25:09,295 --> 01:25:11,297
Showed me the-the oxygen,
you know,

1738
01:25:11,331 --> 01:25:13,066
but I messed it up.

1739
01:25:13,099 --> 01:25:15,701
Uh, when they opened me up
in Scotland, I was unconscious.

1740
01:25:15,734 --> 01:25:17,936
But I pretended
I'd been napping.

1741
01:25:18,904 --> 01:25:20,340
Please enjoy your party.

1742
01:25:21,707 --> 01:25:23,008
Is it big enough?

1743
01:25:23,042 --> 01:25:24,310
To end the war?

1744
01:25:24,344 --> 01:25:27,247
To end all war.

1745
01:25:30,083 --> 01:25:34,154
Uh, Heisenberg sought me out
in Copenhagen.

1746
01:25:34,187 --> 01:25:35,921
It was chilling,

1747
01:25:35,954 --> 01:25:37,990
my old student
working for the Nazis.

1748
01:25:38,024 --> 01:25:41,927
He told me some things
to draw me out.

1749
01:25:42,828 --> 01:25:46,166
Sustained fission reactions
in uranium.

1750
01:25:46,199 --> 01:25:48,401
That sounds more like
a reactor than a bomb.

1751
01:25:48,434 --> 01:25:49,868
Did he mention
gaseous diffusion?

1752
01:25:49,902 --> 01:25:52,172
He seemed more focused
on heavy water.

1753
01:25:52,205 --> 01:25:53,906
As a moderator?

1754
01:25:53,939 --> 01:25:55,308
Yes, instead of graphite.

1755
01:25:58,344 --> 01:25:59,711
What?

1756
01:25:59,745 --> 01:26:01,914
He took a wrong turn.

1757
01:26:01,947 --> 01:26:04,417
We're ahead. And with you here
to help us, Niels.

1758
01:26:04,450 --> 01:26:06,718
Sorry, could you...

1759
01:26:06,752 --> 01:26:09,688
could you give us a moment,
gentlemen?

1760
01:26:15,861 --> 01:26:18,398
I am not here to help, Robert.

1761
01:26:18,431 --> 01:26:20,333
I knew you could
do this without me.

1762
01:26:20,366 --> 01:26:21,467
Then why did you come?

1763
01:26:21,501 --> 01:26:22,935
To talk about after.

1764
01:26:22,968 --> 01:26:24,937
The power you're about to reveal

1765
01:26:24,970 --> 01:26:27,173
will forever outlive the Nazis.

1766
01:26:28,241 --> 01:26:29,841
And the world is not prepared.

1767
01:26:29,875 --> 01:26:31,277
"You could lift the stone

1768
01:26:31,311 --> 01:26:33,946
without being ready
for the snake that's revealed."

1769
01:26:33,979 --> 01:26:35,348
We have to make
the politicians understand,

1770
01:26:35,381 --> 01:26:37,483
this isn't a new weapon.

1771
01:26:37,517 --> 01:26:38,984
It's a new world.

1772
01:26:39,017 --> 01:26:42,388
I'll be out there
doing what I can, but you...

1773
01:26:42,422 --> 01:26:44,990
you're an American Prometheus.

1774
01:26:45,024 --> 01:26:47,260
The man who gave them the power

1775
01:26:47,293 --> 01:26:49,329
to destroy themselves,

1776
01:26:49,362 --> 01:26:50,996
and they'll respect that.

1777
01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:53,199
And your work really begins.

1778
01:26:57,136 --> 01:27:00,273
I'm sorry, Oppie,
but there's a call.

1779
01:27:01,407 --> 01:27:04,143
From San Francisco.

1780
01:27:10,416 --> 01:27:12,118
Robert!

1781
01:27:15,355 --> 01:27:16,888
Robert?

1782
01:27:17,557 --> 01:27:20,126
Robert. Robert.

1783
01:27:20,159 --> 01:27:22,363
God, what's the matter?

1784
01:27:22,396 --> 01:27:24,164
What happened?

1785
01:27:25,032 --> 01:27:26,966
Her father called.

1786
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,136
They found her yesterday
in the bath.

1787
01:27:30,137 --> 01:27:31,272
Who?

1788
01:27:32,273 --> 01:27:34,275
She'd taken pills.

1789
01:27:34,308 --> 01:27:36,210
<i>Left a note, not signed.</i>

1790
01:27:37,211 --> 01:27:38,178
She took barbiturates,

1791
01:27:38,212 --> 01:27:40,147
but there was chloral hydrate
in her blood.

1792
01:27:43,517 --> 01:27:44,851
There was a note.

1793
01:27:44,884 --> 01:27:47,187
Jean Tatlock?

1794
01:27:52,959 --> 01:27:54,961
We were together.

1795
01:27:54,994 --> 01:27:57,797
She said she needed me. I...

1796
01:27:59,899 --> 01:28:02,835
I told her I... I wouldn't...

1797
01:28:02,869 --> 01:28:04,505
I told her I couldn't...

1798
01:28:04,538 --> 01:28:06,206
No, it was... it was me.

1799
01:28:09,209 --> 01:28:11,312
You don't get to commit the sin

1800
01:28:11,345 --> 01:28:13,147
and then have us all
feel sorry for you

1801
01:28:13,180 --> 01:28:16,050
that it had consequences.

1802
01:28:18,118 --> 01:28:20,321
You pull yourself together.

1803
01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:26,126
You know,
people here depend on you.

1804
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:30,097
Donald, would you like

1805
01:28:30,130 --> 01:28:31,198
to contribute here?
Please, help me out.

1806
01:28:31,231 --> 01:28:32,433
You're on your own, pal.

1807
01:28:32,466 --> 01:28:33,567
Bob, I'm not quitting my job

1808
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:34,934
because plutonium
is radioactive.

1809
01:28:34,967 --> 01:28:36,503
We just don't know
what it might do

1810
01:28:36,537 --> 01:28:38,272
to the female
reproductive system...

1811
01:28:38,305 --> 01:28:40,207
Your reproductive system is more
exposed than mine, presumably.

1812
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,110
Can we please? The implosion
device is nowhere.

1813
01:28:43,143 --> 01:28:44,545
Hey, you can't rush everything.

1814
01:28:44,578 --> 01:28:46,113
-Oppie, please.
-Well, there's rushing

1815
01:28:46,146 --> 01:28:47,947
and there's getting on
with it, so pick one.

1816
01:28:47,980 --> 01:28:49,982
Wait. Neddermeyer's
doing his job.

1817
01:28:50,016 --> 01:28:50,950
Teller's not helping.

1818
01:28:50,983 --> 01:28:52,519
You're not helping.

1819
01:28:52,553 --> 01:28:53,953
I've been asking
for calculations

1820
01:28:53,986 --> 01:28:55,122
on the implosion lenses
for weeks.

1821
01:28:55,155 --> 01:28:56,623
The British can do it. Fuchs.

1822
01:28:56,657 --> 01:28:57,957
Absolutely.

1823
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:59,360
It's your job, Teller.

1824
01:28:59,393 --> 01:29:01,195
I'm engaged in research.

1825
01:29:01,228 --> 01:29:03,896
On a hydrogen bomb
we're not even building.

1826
01:29:12,004 --> 01:29:13,374
I won't work for that man.

1827
01:29:15,142 --> 01:29:17,244
Let him go. He's a prima donna.

1828
01:29:17,277 --> 01:29:19,513
I agree.
He should leave Los Alamos.

1829
01:29:19,546 --> 01:29:21,048
Okay.

1830
01:29:21,081 --> 01:29:22,949
Kisty, you replace Neddermeyer.

1831
01:29:22,982 --> 01:29:24,385
Seth, I'm putting you
on plutonium.

1832
01:29:24,418 --> 01:29:27,521
Lilli, you go work for Kisty.
Because he needs you.

1833
01:29:27,554 --> 01:29:30,124
Fuchs, you take Teller's role.

1834
01:29:30,157 --> 01:29:32,526
I'm putting you exclusively
on the implosion device.

1835
01:29:32,559 --> 01:29:36,330
And no one is leaving
Los Alamos.

1836
01:29:50,578 --> 01:29:52,547
-They won't let me leave.
-No.

1837
01:29:52,580 --> 01:29:54,182
I won't let you leave.

1838
01:29:55,049 --> 01:29:58,153
Forget Hans. Forget fission.

1839
01:29:58,186 --> 01:30:01,322
Stay here,
research what you want.

1840
01:30:01,356 --> 01:30:03,957
Fusion, the hydrogen bomb,
whatever.

1841
01:30:03,991 --> 01:30:05,160
We'll meet to discuss.

1842
01:30:05,193 --> 01:30:06,661
You don't have time to meet.

1843
01:30:06,694 --> 01:30:08,263
You're a politician now, Robert.

1844
01:30:08,296 --> 01:30:10,931
You've left physics behind
many, many years ago.

1845
01:30:11,766 --> 01:30:13,568
Once a week.

1846
01:30:13,601 --> 01:30:15,470
One hour. You and me.

1847
01:30:20,642 --> 01:30:23,211
Now raise this fucking barrier.

1848
01:30:27,148 --> 01:30:29,584
<i>So the Super</i>
<i>was under development</i>

1849
01:30:29,617 --> 01:30:31,586
<i>on your watch at Los Alamos?</i>

1850
01:30:31,619 --> 01:30:33,121
Yes.

1851
01:30:33,154 --> 01:30:35,022
And yet, after the war,

1852
01:30:35,056 --> 01:30:36,658
you tried to deny it was viable.

1853
01:30:36,691 --> 01:30:38,193
No, no, no. I...

1854
01:30:38,226 --> 01:30:40,061
I pointed out
technical difficulties with it.

1855
01:30:40,094 --> 01:30:41,729
You... Didn't you try
to kill it at the AEC meeting

1856
01:30:41,763 --> 01:30:43,331
-after the Russian bomb test?
-No.

1857
01:30:43,364 --> 01:30:45,467
But that was
the recommendation of the AEC,

1858
01:30:45,500 --> 01:30:47,769
-was it not?
-After hours of discussion

1859
01:30:47,802 --> 01:30:50,071
<i>about the best response.</i>

1860
01:30:50,104 --> 01:30:55,210
An H-bomb is 1,000 times
the power of an A-bomb.

1861
01:30:56,377 --> 01:31:00,148
Its only intended target
would be the largest cities.

1862
01:31:00,181 --> 01:31:02,283
It's a weapon of mass genocide.

1863
01:31:02,317 --> 01:31:04,619
Izzy, draw some circles
on this side of the map

1864
01:31:04,652 --> 01:31:06,287
where they would target us.

1865
01:31:06,321 --> 01:31:08,356
-Starting with New York. D.C.
-That's fair.

1866
01:31:08,389 --> 01:31:11,159
It's a weapon of attack
with no defensive value.

1867
01:31:11,192 --> 01:31:12,727
-Deterrence.
-"Deterrence"?

1868
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,362
Do we really need
more deterrence

1869
01:31:14,395 --> 01:31:16,798
than our current arsenal
of atomic bombs?

1870
01:31:16,831 --> 01:31:19,534
Y-You drown in ten feet
of water or-or 10,000,

1871
01:31:19,567 --> 01:31:21,236
what's the difference?

1872
01:31:21,269 --> 01:31:23,238
We can already drown Russia.
They know it.

1873
01:31:23,271 --> 01:31:25,540
-And now they can drown us.
-So we're just escalating...

1874
01:31:36,451 --> 01:31:39,287
As I said,
Teller's designs are still as

1875
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,256
impractical as they were
during the war.

1876
01:31:41,289 --> 01:31:44,259
A hydrogen bomb can be made
to work, Oppie, you know that.

1877
01:31:44,292 --> 01:31:45,426
I don't believe we should commit

1878
01:31:45,460 --> 01:31:47,362
all our resources
to that chance.

1879
01:31:47,395 --> 01:31:50,265
Then how would you have Truman
reassure the American people?

1880
01:31:50,298 --> 01:31:52,500
Simply by limiting the spread
of atomic weapons

1881
01:31:52,534 --> 01:31:55,837
through international control
on nuclear energy.

1882
01:31:55,870 --> 01:31:57,438
By which you mean
world government?

1883
01:31:57,472 --> 01:32:00,408
The United Nations
as Roosevelt intended.

1884
01:32:00,441 --> 01:32:03,344
Well, I... I asked what Truman
should do, right?

1885
01:32:03,378 --> 01:32:06,282
The world's changed,
it's not fascism but Communism

1886
01:32:06,315 --> 01:32:07,783
that now threatens our survival.

1887
01:32:07,816 --> 01:32:11,453
Lewis, do you understand,
if we build a hydrogen bomb,

1888
01:32:11,487 --> 01:32:14,356
the Russians will have no choice
but to build their own?

1889
01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:16,158
Could they be working
on one already?

1890
01:32:16,191 --> 01:32:18,694
Based on information gathered
from a spy at Los Alamos.

1891
01:32:18,727 --> 01:32:20,195
No spy at Los Alamos.

1892
01:32:20,229 --> 01:32:21,297
-Gentlemen.
-There wasn't?

1893
01:32:21,330 --> 01:32:22,565
Let's not get sidetracked.

1894
01:32:22,598 --> 01:32:24,300
I say we use this moment

1895
01:32:24,333 --> 01:32:25,734
to gain concessions
from the Russians

1896
01:32:25,768 --> 01:32:28,837
by committing that we will not
build a hydrogen bomb.

1897
01:32:28,871 --> 01:32:30,506
Thereby revealing its existence.

1898
01:32:30,539 --> 01:32:32,541
Which you seem convinced
they already know.

1899
01:32:32,575 --> 01:32:34,176
All right.

1900
01:32:34,209 --> 01:32:36,312
At this point, I'd like
the committee members

1901
01:32:36,345 --> 01:32:40,282
to meet in privacy to finalize
our recommendations.

1902
01:32:41,417 --> 01:32:43,419
I'm just not sure you want
to go down this road.

1903
01:32:43,452 --> 01:32:45,721
Lewis, with respect,
we are the advisory committee,

1904
01:32:45,754 --> 01:32:47,523
we will give them our advice.

1905
01:32:47,556 --> 01:32:48,657
Good night.

1906
01:32:52,861 --> 01:32:57,132
Dr. Oppenheimer?
Hi. William Borden.

1907
01:32:57,166 --> 01:32:58,500
Joint Committee
on Atomic Energy?

1908
01:32:58,534 --> 01:32:59,735
Oh, yes, yes.

1909
01:32:59,768 --> 01:33:01,403
During the war, I was a pilot.

1910
01:33:02,538 --> 01:33:05,274
One night,
flying back from a raid,

1911
01:33:05,307 --> 01:33:08,210
I saw an amazing sight
like a meteor.

1912
01:33:09,411 --> 01:33:12,181
<i>A V-2 rocket headed to England.</i>

1913
01:33:12,214 --> 01:33:14,216
I can't help but imagine
what it will be

1914
01:33:14,249 --> 01:33:18,153
for such an enemy rocket
to carry an atomic warhead.

1915
01:33:26,929 --> 01:33:28,263
Well, let's make sure
we're not the ones

1916
01:33:28,297 --> 01:33:29,598
to make that possible.

1917
01:33:36,305 --> 01:33:39,208
Oppie, I don't think you want
to go up against Strauss.

1918
01:33:39,241 --> 01:33:41,310
If we both speak,
they listen to me.

1919
01:33:41,343 --> 01:33:43,412
When you speak,
they hear a prophet.

1920
01:33:43,445 --> 01:33:45,414
When Strauss speaks,
they hear themselves.

1921
01:33:45,447 --> 01:33:47,249
They'll listen to a prophet.

1922
01:33:47,282 --> 01:33:50,552
A prophet can't be wrong.
Not once.

1923
01:33:50,586 --> 01:33:52,354
<i>Didn't you accuse Oppenheimer</i>

1924
01:33:52,388 --> 01:33:54,289
<i>of sabotaging the development</i>
<i>of the Super?</i>

1925
01:33:54,323 --> 01:33:55,924
I was never one of those

1926
01:33:55,958 --> 01:33:59,228
to bandy around terms
like "sabotage."

1927
01:33:59,261 --> 01:34:01,230
<i>But Mr. Borden was?</i>

1928
01:34:01,263 --> 01:34:02,531
As I understand it, possibly.

1929
01:34:02,564 --> 01:34:04,667
How was Mr. Borden able
to put together

1930
01:34:04,700 --> 01:34:05,968
such a detailed indictment?

1931
01:34:06,001 --> 01:34:07,536
<i>He was no longer</i>
<i>a government employee,</i>

1932
01:34:07,569 --> 01:34:10,205
yet he appears to have
had unlimited access

1933
01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:11,740
to Dr. Oppenheimer's file.

1934
01:34:11,774 --> 01:34:14,677
<i>Might Mr. Nichols have</i>
<i>given him access to the file?</i>

1935
01:34:14,710 --> 01:34:16,612
Or someone else, at the AEC?

1936
01:34:16,645 --> 01:34:19,481
That's a very serious
accusation, Senator.

1937
01:34:19,515 --> 01:34:21,984
Is it your intention to
suggest that Dr. Oppenheimer

1938
01:34:22,017 --> 01:34:23,952
is disloyal
to the United States?

1939
01:34:23,986 --> 01:34:26,523
I've always assumed,
and still assume,

1940
01:34:26,556 --> 01:34:29,259
that he's loyal
to the United States.

1941
01:34:29,292 --> 01:34:30,727
I believe this.
And I shall believe it

1942
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,563
until I see very conclusive
proof to the opposite.

1943
01:34:33,596 --> 01:34:35,365
<i>Do you or do you not believe</i>

1944
01:34:35,398 --> 01:34:37,767
<i>that Dr. Oppenheimer</i>
<i>is a security risk?</i>

1945
01:34:45,975 --> 01:34:47,610
And if I may,

1946
01:34:47,644 --> 01:34:50,447
when Hitler blew
his brains out in that bunker,

1947
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:52,015
it's my humble opinion
that there is no need

1948
01:34:52,049 --> 01:34:53,516
for that bomb
to be seen anywhere

1949
01:34:53,550 --> 01:34:55,318
except for that test site.

1950
01:34:55,351 --> 01:34:57,353
But we at least
have to take a moment

1951
01:34:57,387 --> 01:34:59,389
to think about whether the means

1952
01:34:59,422 --> 01:35:01,691
justify the ends
any longer, because...

1953
01:35:04,027 --> 01:35:06,596
Germany is about to surrender.

1954
01:35:08,498 --> 01:35:11,835
It's no longer the enemy
who are the greatest threat

1955
01:35:11,868 --> 01:35:13,670
to mankind, it's our work.

1956
01:35:16,073 --> 01:35:18,808
Hitler's dead, it's true.

1957
01:35:20,510 --> 01:35:22,046
But the Japanese fight on.

1958
01:35:22,079 --> 01:35:23,747
Their defeat seems assured.

1959
01:35:23,780 --> 01:35:26,783
Not if you're a G.I.
preparing to invade.

1960
01:35:28,085 --> 01:35:29,385
We can end this war.

1961
01:35:29,419 --> 01:35:30,820
But how do we justify

1962
01:35:30,854 --> 01:35:32,422
using this weapon
on human beings?

1963
01:35:35,458 --> 01:35:38,862
We're theorists, yes?

1964
01:35:38,895 --> 01:35:40,497
Yes. Yep.

1965
01:35:40,530 --> 01:35:44,567
We imagine a future
and our imaginings horrify us.

1966
01:35:45,635 --> 01:35:47,771
But they won't fear it
until they understand it,

1967
01:35:47,804 --> 01:35:50,707
and they won't understand it
until they've used it.

1968
01:35:50,740 --> 01:35:51,908
When the world learns

1969
01:35:51,941 --> 01:35:54,444
the terrible secret
of Los Alamos,

1970
01:35:54,477 --> 01:35:57,914
our work here will ensure
a peace mankind has never seen.

1971
01:35:57,947 --> 01:36:01,317
A peace based on the kind
of international cooperation

1972
01:36:01,351 --> 01:36:03,386
that Roosevelt always envisaged.

1973
01:36:08,491 --> 01:36:09,726
<i>Progress?</i>

1974
01:36:09,759 --> 01:36:12,529
Two years and
a billion dollars' worth?

1975
01:36:12,562 --> 01:36:14,330
Well, hard to put a price on it.

1976
01:36:14,364 --> 01:36:15,932
Not really,
just add up the bills.

1977
01:36:15,965 --> 01:36:17,667
"Rural free deliveries."

1978
01:36:17,700 --> 01:36:20,470
Eighty babies delivered
the first year.

1979
01:36:20,503 --> 01:36:22,839
This year,
we've had ten a month.

1980
01:36:22,872 --> 01:36:25,608
Birth control is a little out
of my jurisdiction, General.

1981
01:36:26,476 --> 01:36:28,812
-Clearly.
-General.

1982
01:36:33,783 --> 01:36:35,119
Head down, everyone.

1983
01:36:35,152 --> 01:36:37,320
Fuchs, head down.

1984
01:36:39,823 --> 01:36:40,990
Hmm?

1985
01:36:43,860 --> 01:36:45,595
That's the one.

1986
01:36:45,628 --> 01:36:48,532
Two viable bombs. I need a date.

1987
01:36:50,835 --> 01:36:52,670
September.

1988
01:36:52,703 --> 01:36:53,704
July.

1989
01:36:53,737 --> 01:36:55,673
That's the sweet spot,
gentlemen.

1990
01:36:55,706 --> 01:36:57,875
August.

1991
01:36:57,908 --> 01:36:59,643
July.

1992
01:36:59,677 --> 01:37:01,478
Test in July.

1993
01:37:01,512 --> 01:37:03,148
But I need my brother.

1994
01:37:07,518 --> 01:37:09,453
Frank knows the desert,
he's left politics behind,

1995
01:37:09,486 --> 01:37:11,922
he's been working with
Lawrence for two years now.

1996
01:37:18,896 --> 01:37:20,731
What do we call the test?

1997
01:37:21,832 --> 01:37:25,603
"Batter my heart,
three-person'd god."

1998
01:37:25,636 --> 01:37:26,737
What?

1999
01:37:28,106 --> 01:37:29,506
Trinity.

2000
01:37:37,182 --> 01:37:38,549
You insisted

2001
01:37:38,582 --> 01:37:39,884
on bringing on
your brother Frank,

2002
01:37:39,917 --> 01:37:41,518
-a known Communist.
-A former Communist.

2003
01:37:41,552 --> 01:37:43,988
You brought a known
former Communist

2004
01:37:44,021 --> 01:37:47,892
onto America's most secret
and important defense project.

2005
01:37:47,925 --> 01:37:51,028
I knew my brother
could be trusted. Absolutely.

2006
01:37:51,062 --> 01:37:53,031
And you felt
your judgment was sound

2007
01:37:53,064 --> 01:37:54,899
on who on the team
could be trusted?

2008
01:37:55,900 --> 01:37:57,035
Fuchs, head down.

2009
01:37:57,068 --> 01:37:58,802
Okay, everybody ready?

2010
01:38:00,171 --> 01:38:02,107
Hmm?

2011
01:38:02,140 --> 01:38:03,908
Oh.

2012
01:38:07,045 --> 01:38:08,179
Oh.

2013
01:38:08,213 --> 01:38:09,947
Well, I hope
you learned something.

2014
01:38:09,980 --> 01:38:11,882
Yeah, we learned we're gonna
need to be a lot further away.

2015
01:38:11,916 --> 01:38:13,484
Well, figure it out. Fast.

2016
01:38:13,517 --> 01:38:15,186
We leave for Washington
in the morning.

2017
01:38:15,220 --> 01:38:17,421
We're gonna give them a date.

2018
01:38:31,568 --> 01:38:33,238
You're a long way
from Chicago, Leo.

2019
01:38:33,271 --> 01:38:34,772
If we don't act now,

2020
01:38:34,805 --> 01:38:36,507
they're going to use
this thing against Japan.

2021
01:38:36,540 --> 01:38:38,509
We booked a meeting with Truman,

2022
01:38:38,542 --> 01:38:39,810
but somebody killed it.

2023
01:38:39,843 --> 01:38:41,712
You're meeting
the Secretary of War.

2024
01:38:41,745 --> 01:38:43,914
Just because we're building it,

2025
01:38:43,948 --> 01:38:45,950
doesn't mean we get to decide
how it's used.

2026
01:38:45,983 --> 01:38:48,752
History will judge us, Robert.

2027
01:38:48,786 --> 01:38:52,090
In Chicago,
we put together a petition.

2028
01:38:52,123 --> 01:38:54,059
I'm not...
I'm not getting into that.

2029
01:38:59,130 --> 01:39:01,066
Just tell me your concerns,
and I'll relay them.

2030
01:39:01,099 --> 01:39:02,200
My concerns?

2031
01:39:02,233 --> 01:39:04,202
Germany's defeated.

2032
01:39:04,235 --> 01:39:06,003
Japan's not going
to hold out alone.

2033
01:39:06,037 --> 01:39:07,939
How could you know that?
You got us into this.

2034
01:39:07,973 --> 01:39:09,741
You and Einstein
with your letter to Roosevelt

2035
01:39:09,774 --> 01:39:12,577
-saying we could build a bomb.
-Against Germany.

2036
01:39:12,610 --> 01:39:15,547
That's not how weapons
manufacture works, Szilard.

2037
01:39:15,580 --> 01:39:16,715
Oppie, you have to help.

2038
01:39:16,748 --> 01:39:18,050
Fermi's in the meeting.

2039
01:39:18,084 --> 01:39:19,651
-Lawrence is in the meeting.
-They're not you.

2040
01:39:19,684 --> 01:39:21,853
You're the great salesman
of science.

2041
01:39:21,886 --> 01:39:24,489
You can convince
anyone of anything.

2042
01:39:25,191 --> 01:39:26,591
Even yourself.

2043
01:39:27,193 --> 01:39:28,593
'Scuse me.

2044
01:39:29,627 --> 01:39:32,897
The firestorm in Tokyo killed
100,000 people.

2045
01:39:32,931 --> 01:39:34,733
Mostly civilians.

2046
01:39:34,766 --> 01:39:37,303
I worry about an America
where we do these things

2047
01:39:37,336 --> 01:39:39,071
and no one protests.

2048
01:39:39,105 --> 01:39:42,141
Pearl Harbor and three years of
brutal conflict in the Pacific

2049
01:39:42,174 --> 01:39:44,709
bought us a lot of latitude
with the American public.

2050
01:39:44,743 --> 01:39:46,778
Enough to unleash
the atomic bomb?

2051
01:39:46,811 --> 01:39:48,680
Uh, the A-bomb might not cause

2052
01:39:48,713 --> 01:39:50,615
as much damage
as the Tokyo bombings.

2053
01:39:50,648 --> 01:39:52,017
What are we estimating?

2054
01:39:52,051 --> 01:39:54,886
In a medium-size city, uh,

2055
01:39:54,919 --> 01:39:56,322
20 or 30,000 dead.

2056
01:39:56,355 --> 01:39:58,157
Yes, but, uh,

2057
01:39:58,190 --> 01:40:01,227
don't underestimate
the psychological impact of a...

2058
01:40:01,260 --> 01:40:02,660
of an atomic explosion.

2059
01:40:02,694 --> 01:40:06,931
A pillar of fire
10,000 feet tall.

2060
01:40:06,965 --> 01:40:10,302
Deadly neutron effects
for a mile, in all directions,

2061
01:40:10,336 --> 01:40:13,239
from one single device.

2062
01:40:13,272 --> 01:40:15,607
Dropped from
a barely noticed B-29,

2063
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,909
the atomic bomb will be

2064
01:40:17,942 --> 01:40:20,779
a terrible revelation
of divine power.

2065
01:40:20,812 --> 01:40:24,083
If that's true,
it would be definitive.

2066
01:40:24,116 --> 01:40:26,185
World War II would be over.

2067
01:40:26,218 --> 01:40:27,919
Our boys would come home.

2068
01:40:27,952 --> 01:40:29,088
Military targets?

2069
01:40:30,222 --> 01:40:32,891
Uh, there aren't any big enough.

2070
01:40:32,924 --> 01:40:38,696
Perhaps a vital war plant
with workers housed nearby.

2071
01:40:38,730 --> 01:40:41,067
And we could issue a warning
to reduce civilian casualties.

2072
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:43,269
They'd send everything
they have up against us,

2073
01:40:43,302 --> 01:40:44,903
and I'd be up in that plane.

2074
01:40:44,936 --> 01:40:48,140
But if we announce it
and it fails to go off,

2075
01:40:48,174 --> 01:40:50,875
we'd scupper any chance
of a Japanese surrender.

2076
01:40:50,909 --> 01:40:54,012
Is there no way to demonstrate
a bomb to Japan

2077
01:40:54,046 --> 01:40:55,747
to provoke surrender?

2078
01:40:55,780 --> 01:40:58,850
We intend to demonstrate it
in the most unambiguous terms.

2079
01:40:58,883 --> 01:40:59,584
Twice.

2080
01:40:59,617 --> 01:41:01,686
Once to show the weapon's power

2081
01:41:01,719 --> 01:41:04,223
and a second to show
that we can keep doing this

2082
01:41:04,256 --> 01:41:05,757
until they surrender.

2083
01:41:05,790 --> 01:41:09,161
We have a list of 12 cities
to choose from...

2084
01:41:09,195 --> 01:41:11,097
Sorry, 11.

2085
01:41:11,130 --> 01:41:12,831
I've taken Kyoto off the list

2086
01:41:12,864 --> 01:41:16,668
due to its cultural significance
to the Japanese people.

2087
01:41:16,701 --> 01:41:19,338
Also, my wife and I
honeymooned there.

2088
01:41:19,371 --> 01:41:20,872
It's a magnificent city.

2089
01:41:24,443 --> 01:41:26,145
Let me make this
simple for you, gentlemen.

2090
01:41:26,178 --> 01:41:28,680
According to my intelligence,
which I cannot share with you,

2091
01:41:28,713 --> 01:41:31,151
the Japanese people
will not surrender

2092
01:41:31,184 --> 01:41:32,952
under any circumstances

2093
01:41:32,985 --> 01:41:36,389
short of a successful and total
invasion of the home islands.

2094
01:41:36,423 --> 01:41:39,392
Many lives will be lost,
American and Japanese.

2095
01:41:39,426 --> 01:41:41,660
The use of the atomic bomb
on Japanese cities

2096
01:41:41,694 --> 01:41:43,662
will save lives.

2097
01:41:43,696 --> 01:41:45,998
If we retain moral advantage.

2098
01:41:46,032 --> 01:41:48,168
-How so?
-Well, if we use this weapon

2099
01:41:48,201 --> 01:41:51,138
without informing our allies,
they'll see it as a threat.

2100
01:41:51,171 --> 01:41:52,339
And we'll be in an arms race.

2101
01:41:52,372 --> 01:41:54,441
How open can we be
with the Soviets?

2102
01:41:54,474 --> 01:41:56,042
Secrecy won't stop the Soviets

2103
01:41:56,076 --> 01:41:58,445
from becoming part
of the atomic world.

2104
01:41:58,478 --> 01:42:00,779
We've been told
they have no uranium.

2105
01:42:00,813 --> 01:42:02,014
You've been misinformed.

2106
01:42:02,048 --> 01:42:03,883
A Russian bomb
is a matter of time.

2107
01:42:03,916 --> 01:42:07,320
The program needs to continue
at full pace after the war.

2108
01:42:07,354 --> 01:42:09,955
Uh, Secretary Stimson,
if I may...

2109
01:42:09,989 --> 01:42:13,993
Not all scientists
on the project are in agreement.

2110
01:42:14,026 --> 01:42:16,896
In fact, this might be a moment
to consider other opinions.

2111
01:42:16,929 --> 01:42:18,831
-If you talk a scientist in...
-The Manhattan Project

2112
01:42:18,864 --> 01:42:20,233
has been plagued from the start

2113
01:42:20,267 --> 01:42:24,070
by certain scientists
of doubtful discretion

2114
01:42:24,104 --> 01:42:25,172
and uncertain loyalty.

2115
01:42:25,205 --> 01:42:27,440
One of them just tried to meet
with the president.

2116
01:42:27,474 --> 01:42:29,309
Now, we need these men,

2117
01:42:29,342 --> 01:42:30,876
but as soon as it's practical,

2118
01:42:30,910 --> 01:42:33,180
we should sever any such
scientists from the program.

2119
01:42:33,213 --> 01:42:34,780
Wouldn't you agree, Doctor?

2120
01:42:35,915 --> 01:42:37,750
If a Russian bomb
is inevitable,

2121
01:42:37,783 --> 01:42:41,054
perhaps we should invite
their top scientists to Trinity.

2122
01:42:41,087 --> 01:42:43,390
President Truman
has no intention

2123
01:42:43,423 --> 01:42:44,990
of raising expectations

2124
01:42:45,024 --> 01:42:47,826
that Stalin be included
in the atomic project.

2125
01:42:47,860 --> 01:42:49,229
Informing him
of our breakthrough

2126
01:42:49,262 --> 01:42:50,863
and presenting it as a means
to win the war

2127
01:42:50,896 --> 01:42:53,799
need not make
unkeepable promises.

2128
01:42:53,832 --> 01:42:55,368
But the Potsdam
peace conference in July

2129
01:42:55,402 --> 01:42:57,304
will be President Truman's
last chance

2130
01:42:57,337 --> 01:42:59,472
to have that conversation.

2131
01:42:59,506 --> 01:43:01,408
Can you give us
a working bomb by then?

2132
01:43:02,375 --> 01:43:06,112
Absolutely. We will test fire
before the conference.

2133
01:43:10,849 --> 01:43:13,386
<i>Ground zero observation posts</i>

2134
01:43:13,420 --> 01:43:14,887
<i>at 10,000 yards</i>

2135
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,090
north, south and west.

2136
01:43:17,123 --> 01:43:20,427
-Where do we trigger from?
-Uh, south 10,000.

2137
01:43:20,460 --> 01:43:23,796
And base camp
is ten miles south, here.

2138
01:43:23,829 --> 01:43:26,765
And there's a further
observation post

2139
01:43:26,799 --> 01:43:28,968
on-on that hill 20 miles away.

2140
01:43:29,001 --> 01:43:31,971
What's that, Frank?
Trigger lines already went in.

2141
01:43:32,004 --> 01:43:35,508
The Air Force requested
a line of lights for their B-29.

2142
01:43:35,542 --> 01:43:37,977
What B-29?
Our bomb's on the tower.

2143
01:43:38,010 --> 01:43:39,379
They want to use the test

2144
01:43:39,412 --> 01:43:41,248
to confirm a safe
operating distance.

2145
01:43:41,281 --> 01:43:42,515
That's risky.

2146
01:43:42,549 --> 01:43:44,184
Not as risky as dropping one
over Japan

2147
01:43:44,217 --> 01:43:45,985
and hoping that we were right
about the blast radius.

2148
01:43:46,018 --> 01:43:48,121
Don't let them slow us down,
we're firing on the 15th.

2149
01:43:48,154 --> 01:43:51,392
-The 15th? That's not...
-The 15th.

2150
01:43:51,425 --> 01:43:53,760
The 15th.

2151
01:43:54,861 --> 01:43:56,796
So I'll be here
at South Observation point

2152
01:43:56,830 --> 01:43:59,033
<i>with Frank and Kistiakowsky.</i>

2153
01:43:59,066 --> 01:44:01,569
You'll all be assigned
to Base Camp,

2154
01:44:01,602 --> 01:44:04,804
West Observation
or Far Observation.

2155
01:44:14,448 --> 01:44:16,350
Whoa, whoa.
Careful with the knife.

2156
01:44:16,384 --> 01:44:18,818
There, carefully.

2157
01:44:19,919 --> 01:44:21,455
Are those safe distances?

2158
01:44:21,489 --> 01:44:23,990
They're based
on your calculations.

2159
01:44:24,024 --> 01:44:26,926
Time to stand behind
your science, Hans. Literally.

2160
01:44:50,351 --> 01:44:51,818
Yeah.

2161
01:44:56,490 --> 01:44:58,326
What 'bout the radiation cloud?

2162
01:44:58,359 --> 01:44:59,593
Without high winds,

2163
01:44:59,627 --> 01:45:01,195
it should settle
within two to three miles.

2164
01:45:01,228 --> 01:45:03,631
Evacuation measures
are in place.

2165
01:45:03,664 --> 01:45:05,466
But we need good weather
for visibility,

2166
01:45:05,499 --> 01:45:06,966
so it has to be fine.

2167
01:45:08,069 --> 01:45:09,337
Everybody out.

2168
01:45:19,513 --> 01:45:20,648
We go on the night of the 15th.

2169
01:45:20,681 --> 01:45:22,616
It's a hard deadline,

2170
01:45:22,650 --> 01:45:25,952
so if anyone has anything,
speak now.

2171
01:45:26,654 --> 01:45:27,987
Okay, stop, stop.

2172
01:45:28,021 --> 01:45:29,889
Everybody, mattresses.

2173
01:45:29,923 --> 01:45:31,991
Put the mattress underneath.

2174
01:45:48,975 --> 01:45:51,878
Could use
a final implosion test.

2175
01:45:52,580 --> 01:45:54,548
It couldn't hurt.

2176
01:45:54,582 --> 01:45:56,083
Do it.

2177
01:45:57,051 --> 01:45:59,353
Is there anything else
that might stop us?

2178
01:46:33,455 --> 01:46:36,358
It's happening, isn't it?

2179
01:46:37,459 --> 01:46:39,227
I'll send a message.

2180
01:46:40,095 --> 01:46:42,731
If it's gone our way,

2181
01:46:42,764 --> 01:46:44,332
take in the sheets.

2182
01:46:48,370 --> 01:46:49,404
Robert?

2183
01:46:52,073 --> 01:46:53,508
Break a leg.

2184
01:48:00,075 --> 01:48:03,211
Oppie's taken a very modest
three kilotons.

2185
01:48:03,245 --> 01:48:05,614
-Teller's in with 45.
-20.

2186
01:48:05,647 --> 01:48:08,083
Twenty thousand tons of TNT,

2187
01:48:08,116 --> 01:48:09,518
and does anyone want
the side action

2188
01:48:09,551 --> 01:48:12,287
on atmospheric ignition?

2189
01:48:13,255 --> 01:48:16,191
Are you saying
we'll have to delay?

2190
01:48:16,224 --> 01:48:17,392
I'm saying it would be prudent.

2191
01:48:17,425 --> 01:48:18,660
This weather,
has it reached the site?

2192
01:48:24,499 --> 01:48:26,468
Bethe is calling to tell you
the implosion test failed.

2193
01:48:26,501 --> 01:48:28,136
Hello, Hans.

2194
01:48:28,169 --> 01:48:29,571
Yes, he's here.

2195
01:48:30,405 --> 01:48:31,740
Yes.

2196
01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:35,511
-Is he wrong?
-No.

2197
01:48:35,545 --> 01:48:37,446
-No?
-No.

2198
01:48:38,281 --> 01:48:39,849
So we're about to fire a dud?

2199
01:48:39,882 --> 01:48:41,350
-No.
-Explain.

2200
01:48:41,384 --> 01:48:44,153
Well, I can't. I just...
I-I just know.

2201
01:48:44,186 --> 01:48:45,855
I know the implosion lenses
will work.

2202
01:48:45,888 --> 01:48:47,290
If we fire these detonators

2203
01:48:47,323 --> 01:48:48,558
and they don't
trigger a reaction,

2204
01:48:48,591 --> 01:48:50,259
two years' worth of plutonium

2205
01:48:50,293 --> 01:48:51,694
will be scattered
across White Sands.

2206
01:48:51,727 --> 01:48:55,631
A month of my salary against
ten bucks says it lights.

2207
01:48:55,665 --> 01:48:57,667
Jesus.

2208
01:49:02,738 --> 01:49:05,875
The wind's picking
up at zero, not the rain.

2209
01:49:05,908 --> 01:49:07,343
Lightning's circling.

2210
01:49:07,376 --> 01:49:08,811
You think it might be time
to tell your men

2211
01:49:08,844 --> 01:49:11,747
to get away from the steel tower
with the atomic bomb?

2212
01:49:14,884 --> 01:49:16,852
Let's get to South Observation.

2213
01:49:16,886 --> 01:49:18,354
Pull 'em out.

2214
01:49:18,387 --> 01:49:19,789
We can make
our determination there.

2215
01:49:25,194 --> 01:49:27,196
The team hasn't slept
in two nights.

2216
01:49:27,229 --> 01:49:29,231
If we stand down,
make the bomb safe,

2217
01:49:29,265 --> 01:49:30,600
we won't be back here for weeks.

2218
01:49:30,633 --> 01:49:32,301
Then we'll miss Potsdam.

2219
01:49:32,335 --> 01:49:34,236
I gotta get word
to Truman by 7:00.

2220
01:49:34,270 --> 01:49:35,504
Our window's closing.

2221
01:49:35,538 --> 01:49:36,606
What is this doing?

2222
01:49:36,639 --> 01:49:38,140
Raining, blowing, lightning.

2223
01:49:38,174 --> 01:49:40,209
-For how long, damn it?
-It's holdin' strong.

2224
01:49:40,242 --> 01:49:41,544
It'll break before dawn.

2225
01:49:41,577 --> 01:49:43,245
-How could you know that?
-I know this desert.

2226
01:49:43,279 --> 01:49:44,380
Storm cools overnight.

2227
01:49:44,413 --> 01:49:46,215
Just before dawn,
the storm breaks.

2228
01:49:46,248 --> 01:49:48,451
He could be right, but schedule
as late as possible.

2229
01:49:48,484 --> 01:49:50,219
5:30!

2230
01:49:50,252 --> 01:49:51,287
Sign your forecast.

2231
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:52,388
If you're wrong, I'll hang you.

2232
01:49:52,421 --> 01:49:54,223
Frank, tell them all, 5:30.

2233
01:49:54,256 --> 01:49:56,392
-5:30, 5:30.
-5:30.

2234
01:49:58,594 --> 01:50:03,532
Three years,
4,000 people, $2 billion.

2235
01:50:03,566 --> 01:50:05,935
Well, if it doesn't go off...

2236
01:50:05,968 --> 01:50:07,570
we're both finished.

2237
01:50:10,339 --> 01:50:12,308
I'm betting on three kilotons.

2238
01:50:13,275 --> 01:50:14,710
Anything less,
they won't get what it is.

2239
01:50:14,744 --> 01:50:19,315
What did Fermi mean
by "atmospheric ignition"?

2240
01:50:19,348 --> 01:50:20,816
Well, we had a moment
where it looked like

2241
01:50:20,850 --> 01:50:24,687
the chain reaction from an
atomic device might never stop.

2242
01:50:25,921 --> 01:50:27,957
Setting fire to the atmosphere.

2243
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:29,959
Why is Fermi
still taking side bets on it?

2244
01:50:29,992 --> 01:50:33,162
Call it gallows humor.

2245
01:50:35,498 --> 01:50:38,300
Wait, are we saying
there's a chance

2246
01:50:38,334 --> 01:50:40,202
that when we push that button,

2247
01:50:40,236 --> 01:50:41,570
we destroy the world?

2248
01:50:41,604 --> 01:50:43,773
Nothing in our research
over three years

2249
01:50:43,806 --> 01:50:45,441
supports that conclusion.

2250
01:50:45,474 --> 01:50:48,444
Except as the most
remote possibility.

2251
01:50:48,477 --> 01:50:49,812
How remote?

2252
01:50:49,845 --> 01:50:51,447
Chances are near zero.

2253
01:50:52,782 --> 01:50:54,183
Near zero?

2254
01:50:54,951 --> 01:50:57,521
What do you want
from theory alone?

2255
01:50:59,022 --> 01:51:01,391
Zero would be nice.

2256
01:51:04,695 --> 01:51:06,329
In exactly

2257
01:51:06,363 --> 01:51:09,666
one hour, 58 minutes,

2258
01:51:09,700 --> 01:51:11,234
we'll know.

2259
01:51:17,274 --> 01:51:18,475
It's letting up.

2260
01:51:31,354 --> 01:51:33,724
The arming party's left Zero,
they're heading this way.

2261
01:51:33,757 --> 01:51:34,725
Throwing the switches.

2262
01:51:34,758 --> 01:51:35,859
Turn the cars.

2263
01:51:35,892 --> 01:51:38,361
Ready for emergency evacuation.

2264
01:51:56,047 --> 01:51:57,280
...welder's glass.

2265
01:51:57,314 --> 01:51:58,882
Everybody take your places.

2266
01:51:58,915 --> 01:52:01,418
Everybody take a welder's glass.

2267
01:52:02,919 --> 01:52:04,788
Everybody take a welder's glass.

2268
01:52:56,006 --> 01:52:57,407
Twenty minutes.

2269
01:53:00,911 --> 01:53:02,746
Twenty minutes.

2270
01:53:13,924 --> 01:53:15,458
That's 20.

2271
01:53:18,462 --> 01:53:19,931
On the leg, please.

2272
01:53:21,465 --> 01:53:23,968
-Feynman.
-No.

2273
01:53:24,001 --> 01:53:25,970
The glass. Stops the U.V.

2274
01:53:26,003 --> 01:53:27,805
And what stops the glass?

2275
01:53:28,806 --> 01:53:31,776
I'm gonna head to base camp.
Best of luck.

2276
01:53:32,910 --> 01:53:34,445
Robert.

2277
01:53:35,047 --> 01:53:36,881
Try not to blow up the world.

2278
01:53:48,759 --> 01:53:49,861
Watch that needle.

2279
01:53:49,894 --> 01:53:51,462
If the detonators don't charge

2280
01:53:51,495 --> 01:53:53,431
or the voltage drops
below one volt,

2281
01:53:53,464 --> 01:53:55,466
you hit that button, you abort.

2282
01:53:55,499 --> 01:53:57,802
-Understood?
-Understood.

2283
01:54:05,210 --> 01:54:07,745
Two minutes to detonation.

2284
01:54:07,778 --> 01:54:09,747
Everybody down.

2285
01:54:09,780 --> 01:54:10,748
Do not turn around

2286
01:54:10,781 --> 01:54:13,851
until you see light
reflected on the hills.

2287
01:54:13,885 --> 01:54:15,019
Then look at the explosion

2288
01:54:15,053 --> 01:54:16,687
only through
your welder's glass.

2289
01:54:16,721 --> 01:54:19,423
Ninety seconds to detonation.

2290
01:54:21,059 --> 01:54:23,895
Ninety seconds to detonation.

2291
01:54:23,928 --> 01:54:26,030
Is it rubbed in?

2292
01:54:26,064 --> 01:54:27,431
Yeah.

2293
01:54:33,771 --> 01:54:36,874
Sixty seconds to detonation.

2294
01:54:51,555 --> 01:54:53,791
These things are hard
on your heart.

2295
01:54:53,824 --> 01:54:55,526
Thirty seconds.

2296
01:55:00,631 --> 01:55:02,033
Detonators charged.

2297
01:55:12,177 --> 01:55:15,646
Seventeen, sixteen,

2298
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:16,847
fifteen,

2299
01:55:16,881 --> 01:55:18,050
fourteen,

2300
01:55:18,083 --> 01:55:19,884
thirteen,

2301
01:55:19,917 --> 01:55:22,087
twelve,

2302
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:23,788
eleven,

2303
01:55:23,821 --> 01:55:25,790
ten,

2304
01:55:25,823 --> 01:55:28,226
nine,

2305
01:55:28,260 --> 01:55:30,228
eight,

2306
01:55:30,262 --> 01:55:32,830
seven,

2307
01:55:32,863 --> 01:55:35,233
six...

2308
01:55:35,267 --> 01:55:36,734
...five...

2309
01:55:38,737 --> 01:55:41,207
...four...

2310
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,176
three...

2311
01:55:43,209 --> 01:55:44,743
two...

2312
01:55:46,045 --> 01:55:47,113
...one.

2313
01:56:08,633 --> 01:56:10,569
Poof.

2314
01:57:19,372 --> 01:57:22,741
<i>"And now I am become Death.</i>

2315
01:57:24,643 --> 01:57:26,812
<i>The destroyer of worlds."</i>

2316
01:57:59,812 --> 01:58:01,181
It worked.

2317
01:58:36,416 --> 01:58:38,418
-You owe me ten dollars!
-Oh!

2318
01:58:40,753 --> 01:58:41,888
-Come on!
-Hang on.

2319
01:58:41,921 --> 01:58:43,357
I'm good for it, Kisty.

2320
01:58:43,390 --> 01:58:45,691
You are.

2321
01:58:45,725 --> 01:58:48,428
Yes, you are!

2322
01:59:12,519 --> 01:59:14,054
Well done.

2323
01:59:15,755 --> 01:59:18,292
We did it! We did it!

2324
01:59:18,325 --> 01:59:20,227
Well done.

2325
01:59:25,031 --> 01:59:26,866
-Get me Potsdam right away.
-Yes, sir.

2326
01:59:38,345 --> 01:59:40,113
Get a message to Kitty.

2327
01:59:40,147 --> 01:59:40,846
We can't say anything.

2328
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:42,815
Tell her to take in the sheets.

2329
01:59:50,823 --> 01:59:52,359
We did it, everyone!

2330
01:59:57,231 --> 01:59:59,031
Hello?

2331
01:59:59,066 --> 02:00:01,501
-Hi, Kitty?
-What, what? Charlotte...

2332
02:00:01,535 --> 02:00:02,902
Charlotte, go ahead, go ahead.

2333
02:00:02,935 --> 02:00:04,304
Oh, um, well, I don't know,

2334
02:00:04,338 --> 02:00:07,541
he just said to tell you
to "bring in the sheets."

2335
02:00:10,244 --> 02:00:11,811
Kitty?

2336
02:00:12,912 --> 02:00:15,349
Kitty?
Kitty, are you still there?

2337
02:00:22,257 --> 02:00:24,392
<i>If they detonate it</i>
<i>too high in the air,</i>

2338
02:00:24,425 --> 02:00:25,792
the blast won't be as powerful.

2339
02:00:25,826 --> 02:00:27,861
With respect, Dr. Oppenheimer,

2340
02:00:27,894 --> 02:00:29,930
we'll take it from here.

2341
02:00:40,174 --> 02:00:43,077
Did Truman brief Stalin
at Potsdam?

2342
02:00:43,111 --> 02:00:45,846
A brief would be
an overstatement.

2343
02:00:45,879 --> 02:00:49,950
He referred
to a powerful new weapon.

2344
02:00:49,983 --> 02:00:55,056
Stalin hoped we'd use it
against Japan.

2345
02:00:56,291 --> 02:00:58,025
That's it?

2346
02:00:58,059 --> 02:01:01,296
Robert, we've given them an ace,
it's for them to play the hand.

2347
02:01:03,431 --> 02:01:05,533
You're aiming for the 6th?

2348
02:01:05,566 --> 02:01:07,868
It's up to the CO
in the Pacific.

2349
02:01:09,203 --> 02:01:11,272
Shall I come with you
to Washington?

2350
02:01:12,873 --> 02:01:14,108
What for?

2351
02:01:16,377 --> 02:01:17,978
Well, you'll keep me informed.

2352
02:01:19,314 --> 02:01:20,947
Of course.

2353
02:01:22,517 --> 02:01:24,118
As best I can.

2354
02:01:41,536 --> 02:01:44,405
Would the Japanese surrender
if they knew what was coming?

2355
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:47,241
I don't know.

2356
02:01:49,644 --> 02:01:51,646
Have you seen
Szilard's petition?

2357
02:01:51,679 --> 02:01:54,415
What the hell does Szilard
know about the Japanese?

2358
02:01:54,449 --> 02:01:55,650
You're not signing it, are you?

2359
02:01:55,683 --> 02:01:59,087
Many people have.
A lot of people have.

2360
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:00,254
Edward.

2361
02:02:01,522 --> 02:02:03,191
The fact that we built this bomb

2362
02:02:03,224 --> 02:02:06,227
does not give us any more...
any more right or responsibility

2363
02:02:06,260 --> 02:02:08,363
to decide how it's used
than anyone else.

2364
02:02:08,396 --> 02:02:10,398
But we're the only people
who know about it.

2365
02:02:10,431 --> 02:02:14,000
I've told Stimson the various
opinions of the community.

2366
02:02:14,034 --> 02:02:15,436
But what's your opinion?

2367
02:02:16,671 --> 02:02:18,206
Once it's used...

2368
02:02:19,307 --> 02:02:23,009
...nuclear war,
perhaps all war...

2369
02:02:24,612 --> 02:02:26,047
...becomes unthinkable.

2370
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:29,083
Until somebody
builds a bigger bomb.

2371
02:02:49,671 --> 02:02:51,407
I thought they would call.

2372
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:53,007
It's only the 5th.

2373
02:02:55,177 --> 02:02:57,179
In Japan, it's the 6th.

2374
02:03:10,325 --> 02:03:11,326
Charlotte.

2375
02:03:13,662 --> 02:03:15,364
Try Groves.

2376
02:03:16,365 --> 02:03:17,433
<i>Anything?</i>

2377
02:03:19,735 --> 02:03:21,103
Charlotte?

2378
02:03:21,136 --> 02:03:22,438
Truman's on the radio.

2379
02:03:23,372 --> 02:03:26,275
Sixteen hours ago,

2380
02:03:26,308 --> 02:03:32,214
an American airplane dropped
one bomb on Hiroshima...

2381
02:03:33,248 --> 02:03:36,385
...and destroyed its usefulness
to the enemy.

2382
02:03:38,353 --> 02:03:44,226
The bomb had more power
than 20,000 tons of TNT.

2383
02:03:45,694 --> 02:03:48,163
It is an atomic bomb.

2384
02:03:51,366 --> 02:03:52,734
It is a harnessing

2385
02:03:52,768 --> 02:03:55,537
of the basic powers
of the universe.

2386
02:03:57,573 --> 02:03:59,208
<i>Groves on one.</i>

2387
02:03:59,241 --> 02:04:02,277
We are now prepared
to destroy more rapidly

2388
02:04:02,311 --> 02:04:04,613
and completely the Japanese...

2389
02:04:04,646 --> 02:04:06,315
General?

2390
02:04:06,348 --> 02:04:09,384
I'm very proud of you
and all of your people.

2391
02:04:09,418 --> 02:04:10,752
It went all right?

2392
02:04:10,786 --> 02:04:13,755
Apparently, it went
with a tremendous bang.

2393
02:04:13,789 --> 02:04:15,424
Well,

2394
02:04:15,457 --> 02:04:18,393
everyone here is feeling
reasonably good about it.

2395
02:04:19,828 --> 02:04:21,463
It's been a long road.

2396
02:04:21,497 --> 02:04:24,299
I think one of
the wisest things I ever did

2397
02:04:24,333 --> 02:04:27,369
was when I selected
the director of Los Alamos.

2398
02:04:29,738 --> 02:04:32,074
<i>We have spent</i>

2399
02:04:32,107 --> 02:04:34,109
<i>more than $2 billion</i>

2400
02:04:34,142 --> 02:04:38,380
<i>on the greatest</i>
<i>scientific gamble in history,</i>

2401
02:04:38,413 --> 02:04:41,250
<i>and we have won.</i>

2402
02:04:44,786 --> 02:04:47,489
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2403
02:04:47,523 --> 02:04:49,525
Oppie! Oppie!

2404
02:04:49,558 --> 02:04:52,761
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2405
02:04:52,794 --> 02:04:54,630
Oppie! Oppie!

2406
02:04:54,663 --> 02:04:57,432
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2407
02:04:57,466 --> 02:05:00,802
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2408
02:05:00,836 --> 02:05:05,441
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2409
02:05:05,475 --> 02:05:06,809
Oppie! Oppie!

2410
02:05:06,843 --> 02:05:09,412
Oppie! Oppie! Oppie! Oppie!

2411
02:06:08,504 --> 02:06:09,606
The world...

2412
02:06:11,608 --> 02:06:12,742
...will remember this day.

2413
02:06:31,661 --> 02:06:33,396
It's too soon to...

2414
02:06:34,263 --> 02:06:35,932
It's too soon to determine

2415
02:06:35,965 --> 02:06:38,334
what the results
of the bombing are.

2416
02:06:41,270 --> 02:06:42,872
But I'll bet the Japanese
didn't like it.

2417
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:05,294
I'm so proud.

2418
02:07:06,429 --> 02:07:08,564
So proud of what
you have accomplished.

2419
02:07:14,871 --> 02:07:18,708
I just wish we had it in time
to use against the Germans.

2420
02:09:08,552 --> 02:09:10,420
Dr. Oppenheimer?

2421
02:09:11,021 --> 02:09:13,323
Dr. Oppenheimer?

2422
02:09:13,357 --> 02:09:15,025
-Nice picture.
-Oh.

2423
02:09:15,059 --> 02:09:17,394
President Truman
will see you now.

2424
02:09:31,109 --> 02:09:33,944
Dr. Oppenheimer. It's an honor.

2425
02:09:33,977 --> 02:09:35,913
-Mr. President.
-Please.

2426
02:09:35,946 --> 02:09:37,748
Thank you.

2427
02:09:37,781 --> 02:09:39,316
Secretary Byrnes.

2428
02:09:40,517 --> 02:09:42,519
How's it feel to be

2429
02:09:42,553 --> 02:09:44,588
the most famous man
in the world?

2430
02:09:45,589 --> 02:09:48,660
You helped save a lot
of American lives.

2431
02:09:48,693 --> 02:09:51,063
What we did
at Hiroshima was a...

2432
02:09:51,096 --> 02:09:53,031
And Nagasaki.

2433
02:09:53,065 --> 02:09:55,067
Well, obviously.

2434
02:09:55,100 --> 02:09:59,037
Your invention let us
bring our boys home.

2435
02:09:59,071 --> 02:10:02,440
Well, it was hardly
my invention.

2436
02:10:02,473 --> 02:10:04,742
It was you on the cover of <i>Time.</i>

2437
02:10:07,612 --> 02:10:09,148
Jim tells me you're concerned

2438
02:10:09,181 --> 02:10:10,949
about an arms race
with the Soviets.

2439
02:10:10,982 --> 02:10:13,351
Uh, yes, uh...

2440
02:10:14,053 --> 02:10:15,553
Well, um,

2441
02:10:15,587 --> 02:10:20,692
it's that, uh, now is
our chance to secure

2442
02:10:20,725 --> 02:10:23,595
international cooperation on
atomic energy,

2443
02:10:23,628 --> 02:10:26,664
and... and I'm concerned...

2444
02:10:26,698 --> 02:10:28,933
Do you know when the Soviets
are gonna have the bomb?

2445
02:10:28,967 --> 02:10:30,902
I don't think I could give a...

2446
02:10:30,935 --> 02:10:32,338
Never.

2447
02:10:32,971 --> 02:10:34,606
Never.

2448
02:10:34,639 --> 02:10:37,809
Mr. President, the-the Russians
have good physicists

2449
02:10:37,842 --> 02:10:39,477
and-and...
and abundant resources.

2450
02:10:39,510 --> 02:10:41,613
-Abundant?
-Yes.

2451
02:10:41,646 --> 02:10:44,916
I don't think so.

2452
02:10:44,949 --> 02:10:48,486
Well, they'll-they'll put
everything they have and...

2453
02:10:51,756 --> 02:10:55,627
I hear you're leaving
Los Alamos.

2454
02:10:56,895 --> 02:10:57,996
What should we do with it?

2455
02:10:58,029 --> 02:11:00,531
Give it back to the Indians.

2456
02:11:07,939 --> 02:11:11,176
Um... Dr. Oppenheimer,

2457
02:11:11,210 --> 02:11:13,544
if what you say about
the Soviets is true,

2458
02:11:13,578 --> 02:11:16,981
we have to build up Los Alamos,

2459
02:11:17,015 --> 02:11:18,917
not shut it down.

2460
02:11:22,154 --> 02:11:23,955
Uh, Mr. President...

2461
02:11:25,023 --> 02:11:26,524
Um...

2462
02:11:29,194 --> 02:11:32,864
I feel that I have blood
on my hands.

2463
02:11:52,650 --> 02:11:57,956
You think anyone
in Hiroshima or Nagasaki

2464
02:11:57,989 --> 02:12:01,025
gives a shit who built the bomb?

2465
02:12:04,196 --> 02:12:06,564
They care who dropped it.

2466
02:12:07,266 --> 02:12:09,535
I did.

2467
02:12:10,769 --> 02:12:13,739
Hiroshima isn't about you.

2468
02:12:19,878 --> 02:12:22,014
Dr. Oppenheimer.

2469
02:12:32,958 --> 02:12:35,761
Don't let that crybaby
back in here.

2470
02:12:40,866 --> 02:12:43,902
<i>Robert saw that</i>
<i>hand-wringing got him nowhere.</i>

2471
02:12:43,936 --> 02:12:47,273
<i>By the time I'd met him,</i>
<i>he'd fully embraced</i>

2472
02:12:47,307 --> 02:12:49,875
<i>his "father of the bomb"</i>
<i>reputation.</i>

2473
02:12:49,908 --> 02:12:52,312
Used his profile
to influence policy.

2474
02:13:01,787 --> 02:13:03,156
<i>Doctor, in the years</i>
<i>following the war,</i>

2475
02:13:03,189 --> 02:13:05,325
would you say that
you exerted a great influence

2476
02:13:05,358 --> 02:13:07,160
on the atomic policies
of the USA?

2477
02:13:07,193 --> 02:13:09,895
<i>I think great</i>
<i>would be an overstatement.</i>

2478
02:13:09,928 --> 02:13:11,897
Really? If we look
at the issue of isotopes,

2479
02:13:11,930 --> 02:13:13,632
were you not
personally responsible

2480
02:13:13,665 --> 02:13:15,701
for destroying all opposition
to their export?

2481
02:13:15,734 --> 02:13:18,604
Could use a-a bottle of beer...

2482
02:13:18,637 --> 02:13:20,306
...when making atomic weapons.
In fact, you do.

2483
02:13:20,340 --> 02:13:22,808
I was the spokesman,
but the-the opinion

2484
02:13:22,841 --> 02:13:24,643
among scientists was unanimous.

2485
02:13:24,676 --> 02:13:26,346
All along with McCarthy
on the rise,

2486
02:13:26,379 --> 02:13:27,780
he knew he was vulnerable.

2487
02:13:27,813 --> 02:13:29,182
His brother was blacklisted

2488
02:13:29,215 --> 02:13:32,118
by every university
in the country.

2489
02:13:33,219 --> 02:13:36,056
Lomanitz wound up working
the railroad, laying track.

2490
02:13:38,657 --> 02:13:40,093
And Chevalier went into exile.

2491
02:13:43,229 --> 02:13:44,663
But none of that

2492
02:13:44,696 --> 02:13:46,665
stopped Robert
from pushing the GAC

2493
02:13:46,698 --> 02:13:49,568
to recommend arms control
instead of the H-bomb.

2494
02:13:51,371 --> 02:13:52,838
He was devastated

2495
02:13:52,871 --> 02:13:54,940
when Truman rejected
their recommendation.

2496
02:13:56,675 --> 02:13:59,212
I miss Richard
more than I can bear.

2497
02:13:59,245 --> 02:14:01,013
I know, Ruth, I know.

2498
02:14:01,047 --> 02:14:04,150
Part of me's glad he didn't live
to see where this is all going.

2499
02:14:06,919 --> 02:14:08,354
Here comes the birthday boy.

2500
02:14:08,388 --> 02:14:10,989
-To gloat.
-Have fun.

2501
02:14:11,990 --> 02:14:14,360
Robert, uh, my son and his
fiancée are desperate to meet

2502
02:14:14,394 --> 02:14:16,362
the father of the atomic bomb,
and so...

2503
02:14:16,396 --> 02:14:19,199
Well. Good day.

2504
02:14:25,271 --> 02:14:27,373
Is this a bad time?

2505
02:14:27,407 --> 02:14:28,907
What do you think, Lewis?

2506
02:14:28,941 --> 02:14:31,010
Well, I think it must have
been a blow for you.

2507
02:14:31,044 --> 02:14:33,180
For the world.

2508
02:14:33,214 --> 02:14:34,848
The world?

2509
02:14:34,881 --> 02:14:38,852
What does Fuchs mean
to the rest of the world?

2510
02:14:38,885 --> 02:14:40,287
Fuchs?

2511
02:14:40,321 --> 02:14:41,921
Klaus Fuchs?

2512
02:14:43,357 --> 02:14:45,758
Oh, dear. You haven't heard.

2513
02:14:48,928 --> 02:14:50,797
Klaus Fuchs, the British
scientist that you put

2514
02:14:50,830 --> 02:14:53,867
onto the implosion team
at Los Alamos,

2515
02:14:53,900 --> 02:14:56,035
<i>turns out he was...</i>

2516
02:14:56,070 --> 02:14:59,340
he was spying for the Soviets
the whole time.

2517
02:14:59,373 --> 02:15:00,907
I'm sorry.

2518
02:15:06,080 --> 02:15:08,982
<i>After the truth</i>
<i>about Fuchs came out,</i>

2519
02:15:09,015 --> 02:15:11,118
the FBI stepped up
surveillance on him.

2520
02:15:11,152 --> 02:15:15,021
He knew his phone was tapped,
he was followed everywhere...

2521
02:15:16,390 --> 02:15:17,824
...his trash picked through.

2522
02:15:21,828 --> 02:15:23,297
But never stopped
speaking his mind.

2523
02:15:23,330 --> 02:15:25,999
A man of conviction.

2524
02:15:26,032 --> 02:15:28,868
And maybe he thought fame
could actually protect him.

2525
02:15:30,371 --> 02:15:33,806
When Eisenhower took office,
he saw one more chance.

2526
02:15:35,209 --> 02:15:36,243
He took it.

2527
02:15:36,277 --> 02:15:38,745
America and Russia

2528
02:15:38,778 --> 02:15:43,050
may be likened
to two scorpions in a bottle,

2529
02:15:43,083 --> 02:15:46,453
each capable
of killing the other

2530
02:15:46,487 --> 02:15:49,190
but only at the risk
of his own life.

2531
02:15:49,223 --> 02:15:51,991
Now, there are various aspects
of this policy...

2532
02:15:52,025 --> 02:15:54,027
<i>Lot of scientists blame me,</i>

2533
02:15:54,061 --> 02:15:57,198
<i>but how was I supposed</i>
<i>to protect him?</i>

2534
02:15:57,231 --> 02:15:59,200
...too secret for discussion,

2535
02:15:59,233 --> 02:16:01,235
candor is the only remedy.

2536
02:16:01,268 --> 02:16:02,802
Officials in Washington

2537
02:16:02,835 --> 02:16:04,338
need to start leveling
with the American people.

2538
02:16:06,039 --> 02:16:08,875
That was the last straw
for Robert's enemies.

2539
02:16:08,908 --> 02:16:10,944
So he had to lose
his security clearance.

2540
02:16:10,977 --> 02:16:13,746
And with it, his credibility.

2541
02:16:13,780 --> 02:16:16,183
But how could they do it?

2542
02:16:16,217 --> 02:16:17,484
He was a war hero.

2543
02:16:17,518 --> 02:16:19,220
He'd already told everyone
about his past.

2544
02:16:19,253 --> 02:16:21,222
Borden dredged it all up.

2545
02:16:21,255 --> 02:16:24,491
How could Borden get access
to Oppenheimer's FBI file?

2546
02:16:24,525 --> 02:16:26,093
Could it have been Nichols?

2547
02:16:26,126 --> 02:16:28,429
No, I can't imagine
he'd do that.

2548
02:16:28,462 --> 02:16:30,497
But whoever did
unleashed a firestorm

2549
02:16:30,531 --> 02:16:32,533
that burned a path
from the White House

2550
02:16:32,566 --> 02:16:35,236
back to my desk at the AEC.

2551
02:16:35,269 --> 02:16:37,104
You see them in there, right?

2552
02:16:37,137 --> 02:16:41,007
I've been working
my whole life to get here.

2553
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:43,077
Cabinet of
the United States of America.

2554
02:16:43,110 --> 02:16:45,044
Now, in front
of the entire country,

2555
02:16:45,079 --> 02:16:47,147
they're gonna put me
back in my place.

2556
02:16:48,582 --> 02:16:51,253
A lowly shoe salesman.

2557
02:16:51,286 --> 02:16:53,121
Lewis, we can win this thing.

2558
02:16:53,154 --> 02:16:55,223
I-I think we can
get the Senate to grasp

2559
02:16:55,257 --> 02:16:58,059
that you did your duty,
painful though it was.

2560
02:16:58,093 --> 02:16:59,860
Now, will Hill's testimony
back us up?

2561
02:16:59,893 --> 02:17:01,862
-Hill will be fine.
-I don't really know him,

2562
02:17:01,895 --> 02:17:04,065
but, uh, he was one
of Szilard's boys in Chicago,

2563
02:17:04,099 --> 02:17:06,134
and they never forgave Robert
for not supporting

2564
02:17:06,167 --> 02:17:08,570
their petition
against bombing Japan.

2565
02:17:08,603 --> 02:17:13,807
This was taken 31 days
after the bombing.

2566
02:17:13,841 --> 02:17:16,578
Virtually everyone
in the street,

2567
02:17:16,611 --> 02:17:18,846
for nearly a mile around,

2568
02:17:18,879 --> 02:17:22,083
was instantly
and seriously burned.

2569
02:17:23,318 --> 02:17:27,855
The, uh, Japanese spoke of
people who wore striped clothing

2570
02:17:27,888 --> 02:17:30,858
upon whom the skin
was burned in stripes.

2571
02:17:31,925 --> 02:17:34,296
There were many
who thought themselves lucky,

2572
02:17:34,329 --> 02:17:37,031
who climbed out of the ruins
of their homes

2573
02:17:37,065 --> 02:17:38,932
only slightly injured.

2574
02:17:40,068 --> 02:17:41,835
But they died anyway.

2575
02:17:42,504 --> 02:17:45,607
They died days or weeks later

2576
02:17:45,640 --> 02:17:48,976
from the radium-like rays
emitted in great numbers

2577
02:17:49,009 --> 02:17:50,911
at the moment of the explosion.

2578
02:17:52,113 --> 02:17:54,182
Did you read this crap
in the papers?

2579
02:17:54,215 --> 02:17:57,017
A British physicist is saying
the atomic bombings

2580
02:17:57,052 --> 02:17:59,220
were not the last act
of World War II

2581
02:17:59,254 --> 02:18:02,390
but the first act
of this cold war with Russia.

2582
02:18:02,424 --> 02:18:03,891
Which physicist?

2583
02:18:03,924 --> 02:18:05,327
I think you knew him.

2584
02:18:05,360 --> 02:18:06,960
Patrick Blackett.

2585
02:18:09,431 --> 02:18:10,998
He may not be wrong.

2586
02:18:11,031 --> 02:18:12,367
Stimson is now telling me

2587
02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:15,637
we bombed an enemy
that was essentially defeated.

2588
02:18:15,670 --> 02:18:19,207
Robert,
you've all the influence now.

2589
02:18:19,240 --> 02:18:20,941
Please.

2590
02:18:20,974 --> 02:18:23,078
Urge them to continue
my research on the Super.

2591
02:18:23,111 --> 02:18:24,479
I neither can nor will, Edward.

2592
02:18:24,512 --> 02:18:26,614
Why not?

2593
02:18:26,648 --> 02:18:28,350
It's not the right use
of our resources.

2594
02:18:28,383 --> 02:18:30,485
Is that what you really believe?

2595
02:18:30,518 --> 02:18:32,886
J. Robert Oppenheimer.

2596
02:18:32,920 --> 02:18:35,323
Sphinx-like guru of the atom.

2597
02:18:36,624 --> 02:18:38,393
Nobody knows what you believe.

2598
02:18:39,494 --> 02:18:41,363
Do you? Hmm?

2599
02:18:41,396 --> 02:18:44,099
<i>One final time,</i>
<i>our program director,</i>

2600
02:18:44,132 --> 02:18:46,101
<i>Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.</i>

2601
02:18:47,302 --> 02:18:49,070
<i>I hope that in years to come</i>

2602
02:18:49,104 --> 02:18:53,108
you will look back
on your work here with pride.

2603
02:18:53,141 --> 02:18:55,510
But today, that pride
must be tempered

2604
02:18:55,543 --> 02:18:57,878
with a profound concern.

2605
02:18:59,147 --> 02:19:00,948
If atomic weapons
are to be added

2606
02:19:00,981 --> 02:19:03,385
to the arsenals
of a warring world,

2607
02:19:03,418 --> 02:19:06,987
then the day will come
when people will curse

2608
02:19:07,020 --> 02:19:08,423
the name of Los Alamos.

2609
02:19:12,428 --> 02:19:14,530
Uh, sorry, Admiral.

2610
02:19:14,563 --> 02:19:16,565
Stopped off to get this.

2611
02:19:16,599 --> 02:19:19,402
It seems pretty favorable.

2612
02:19:19,435 --> 02:19:20,536
There's Oppenheimer.

2613
02:19:20,569 --> 02:19:22,138
What's the caption?

2614
02:19:22,171 --> 02:19:25,006
Uh, "J. Robert Oppenheimer,
Strauss fought..."

2615
02:19:26,575 --> 02:19:28,144
"...and the US won."

2616
02:19:28,977 --> 02:19:30,246
That'll work.

2617
02:19:30,279 --> 02:19:32,515
Those were your words
from the other day.

2618
02:19:32,548 --> 02:19:33,948
We needed to pivot.

2619
02:19:33,982 --> 02:19:35,251
But how would you know

2620
02:19:35,284 --> 02:19:37,086
what <i>Time</i> magazine's
gonna write?

2621
02:19:37,119 --> 02:19:39,355
Henry Luce is a friend.

2622
02:19:45,494 --> 02:19:48,997
You sat here and let me
tell you how it's done,

2623
02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:51,700
but you've been
far ahead all along.

2624
02:19:51,734 --> 02:19:54,703
Survival in Washington

2625
02:19:54,737 --> 02:19:57,072
is about knowing
how to get things done.

2626
02:19:57,706 --> 02:19:59,108
Right.

2627
02:20:00,709 --> 02:20:02,445
What was it you said
about Borden?

2628
02:20:02,478 --> 02:20:05,481
"Why get caught
holding the knife yourself?"

2629
02:20:07,316 --> 02:20:10,319
I'm beginning to think Borden
was holding the knife for you.

2630
02:20:12,388 --> 02:20:14,623
It's gonna come down
to how much influence

2631
02:20:14,657 --> 02:20:16,725
Borden's been able
to exert on Teller.

2632
02:20:16,759 --> 02:20:19,195
Did I say something funny?

2633
02:20:19,228 --> 02:20:20,596
Just "Borden, Borden, Borden"

2634
02:20:20,629 --> 02:20:24,400
when we all know
that it's Strauss.

2635
02:20:24,433 --> 02:20:26,402
Lewis brought me
to Princeton, Kitty.

2636
02:20:26,435 --> 02:20:29,138
And then you humiliated him
in front of Congress.

2637
02:20:29,171 --> 02:20:32,006
But more useful than a sandwich.

2638
02:20:35,177 --> 02:20:36,345
-How'd I do?
-I'll call recess,

2639
02:20:36,378 --> 02:20:37,480
ten minutes.

2640
02:20:37,513 --> 02:20:39,748
Maybe a little too well, Robert.

2641
02:20:39,782 --> 02:20:41,015
That was six years ago.

2642
02:20:41,050 --> 02:20:42,751
You know, the truly vindictive,

2643
02:20:42,785 --> 02:20:44,386
patient as saints.

2644
02:20:44,420 --> 02:20:47,223
Strauss has been perfectly
clear that he is neutral.

2645
02:20:47,256 --> 02:20:50,759
Wake up. It is Strauss.

2646
02:20:50,793 --> 02:20:53,729
It's always been Strauss,
and you know it.

2647
02:20:53,762 --> 02:20:55,397
Why won't you fight him?

2648
02:20:56,432 --> 02:20:57,633
Christ's sake.

2649
02:20:58,734 --> 02:21:01,403
It wasn't Nichols or Hoover

2650
02:21:01,437 --> 02:21:03,105
or one of Truman's guys.
It was you.

2651
02:21:03,138 --> 02:21:05,107
You gave the file to Borden.

2652
02:21:05,140 --> 02:21:06,775
You set him on Oppenheimer.

2653
02:21:06,809 --> 02:21:09,245
-You convinced him to...
-Borden...

2654
02:21:09,278 --> 02:21:11,180
didn't take any convincing.

2655
02:21:11,213 --> 02:21:13,315
Take your time,
use the entire file.

2656
02:21:13,349 --> 02:21:16,252
Write up your conclusion,
send them to the FBI.

2657
02:21:16,285 --> 02:21:18,521
The material
is obviously extensive,

2658
02:21:18,554 --> 02:21:21,223
but there's nothing new here.

2659
02:21:21,257 --> 02:21:22,791
Your conclusions will be.

2660
02:21:22,825 --> 02:21:25,127
And they'll have to be answered.

2661
02:21:25,160 --> 02:21:26,629
Hoover passes them to McCarthy?

2662
02:21:26,662 --> 02:21:30,266
Oppenheimer's too slippery
for that self-promoting clown.

2663
02:21:30,299 --> 02:21:33,168
I've talked it over with Hoover,
he'll hold McCarthy at bay

2664
02:21:33,202 --> 02:21:34,804
while you do this with the AEC.

2665
02:21:34,838 --> 02:21:36,673
-A trial.
-No.

2666
02:21:36,706 --> 02:21:40,477
No trial. You can't
give Oppenheimer a platform.

2667
02:21:40,510 --> 02:21:42,279
You can't martyr him.

2668
02:21:42,312 --> 02:21:45,482
We need a systematic destruction
of Oppenheimer's credibility

2669
02:21:45,515 --> 02:21:49,085
so he can never again speak
on matters of national security.

2670
02:21:49,119 --> 02:21:51,187
Then what?

2671
02:21:52,389 --> 02:21:55,759
A shabby little room,
far from the limelight.

2672
02:22:02,198 --> 02:22:03,466
<i>A simple bureaucratic procedure.</i>

2673
02:22:03,500 --> 02:22:06,136
His Q clearance
is up for renewal.

2674
02:22:06,169 --> 02:22:09,139
You send your accusations
to the FBI.

2675
02:22:10,774 --> 02:22:14,377
Hoover sends them to the AEC,
you're forced to act.

2676
02:22:15,211 --> 02:22:16,513
You write up an indictment

2677
02:22:16,546 --> 02:22:18,181
<i>and tell Oppenheimer</i>

2678
02:22:18,214 --> 02:22:20,884
<i>his security clearance</i>
<i>is not being renewed.</i>

2679
02:22:20,917 --> 02:22:22,452
<i>But offer him</i>
<i>the chance to appeal.</i>

2680
02:22:22,485 --> 02:22:24,821
As you can see, Robert,
it's not yet signed.

2681
02:22:24,854 --> 02:22:26,356
May I keep this?

2682
02:22:26,389 --> 02:22:27,324
No.

2683
02:22:27,357 --> 02:22:29,593
If you do decide to appeal,

2684
02:22:29,626 --> 02:22:31,161
they'll have to send you a copy.

2685
02:22:31,194 --> 02:22:34,431
When he appeals--
and trust me, he will--

2686
02:22:34,464 --> 02:22:36,866
I appoint a board.

2687
02:22:36,900 --> 02:22:39,369
They will, of course,
have counsel.

2688
02:22:39,402 --> 02:22:41,338
-Prosecutor?
-In all but name.

2689
02:22:41,371 --> 02:22:43,540
-Who?
-Roger Robb.

2690
02:22:43,573 --> 02:22:44,741
Ouch.

2691
02:22:44,774 --> 02:22:46,242
Robb will have
security clearance

2692
02:22:46,276 --> 02:22:47,811
<i>to examine Oppenheimer's file.</i>

2693
02:22:47,844 --> 02:22:49,279
<i>As will the Gray board.</i>

2694
02:22:49,312 --> 02:22:50,680
Defense counsel will not.

2695
02:22:52,515 --> 02:22:53,917
A closed hearing.

2696
02:22:53,950 --> 02:22:55,185
<i>The so-called</i>
<i>derogatory information</i>

2697
02:22:55,218 --> 02:22:57,387
in your indictment of me.

2698
02:22:57,420 --> 02:22:59,889
No audience. No reporters.

2699
02:22:59,923 --> 02:23:03,393
-No burden of proof.
-No burden of proof?

2700
02:23:04,761 --> 02:23:06,262
We're not convicting.

2701
02:23:06,963 --> 02:23:09,566
We're just denying.

2702
02:23:14,537 --> 02:23:17,307
What is it you said?

2703
02:23:17,340 --> 02:23:20,677
"This is just how
the game is played."

2704
02:23:20,710 --> 02:23:23,680
Well, forgive my naivete.

2705
02:23:23,713 --> 02:23:25,682
Amateurs seek the sun.

2706
02:23:26,650 --> 02:23:27,717
Get eaten.

2707
02:23:28,785 --> 02:23:31,621
Power stays in the shadows.

2708
02:23:31,655 --> 02:23:35,358
But, sir, you're...
you're out of the shadows now.

2709
02:23:35,392 --> 02:23:36,826
Yeah, that's why
this has to work.

2710
02:23:36,860 --> 02:23:38,328
Well...

2711
02:23:39,629 --> 02:23:41,765
Teller's testifying
this morning.

2712
02:23:41,798 --> 02:23:44,200
That'll help. And then...

2713
02:23:44,234 --> 02:23:45,669
Hill is in the afternoon.

2714
02:23:45,702 --> 02:23:48,171
Hill is gonna help us too.

2715
02:23:50,407 --> 02:23:53,576
As you can see,
Robert, it's not yet signed.

2716
02:23:53,610 --> 02:23:54,644
May I keep this?

2717
02:23:54,678 --> 02:23:55,713
No.

2718
02:23:57,815 --> 02:23:59,817
If you do decide to appeal,

2719
02:23:59,850 --> 02:24:02,687
then they'll have
to send you a copy.

2720
02:24:06,257 --> 02:24:08,559
Take my car and driver.
I insist.

2721
02:24:13,297 --> 02:24:15,232
I'll have to consult
my lawyers, Lewis.

2722
02:24:15,266 --> 02:24:17,968
Of course.
But don't take too long.

2723
02:24:18,002 --> 02:24:20,204
I can't keep Nichols at bay.

2724
02:24:26,343 --> 02:24:28,646
I'm sorry
it's come to this, Robert.

2725
02:24:28,679 --> 02:24:29,714
I think it's wrong.

2726
02:24:43,027 --> 02:24:44,462
<i>Nichols wants me to fight</i>

2727
02:24:44,495 --> 02:24:46,497
<i>so he can get it</i>
<i>all on the record.</i>

2728
02:24:46,530 --> 02:24:48,399
Strauss wants me to walk away.

2729
02:24:48,432 --> 02:24:51,268
Strauss knows
that you can't do that,

2730
02:24:51,302 --> 02:24:53,738
you'd be accepting the charges.

2731
02:24:53,771 --> 02:24:55,439
You'll lose your job.

2732
02:24:55,473 --> 02:24:57,742
You will lose your reputation.
We'll lose our house.

2733
02:24:57,775 --> 02:25:00,478
Robert, we have to fight.

2734
02:25:03,047 --> 02:25:05,349
As AEC Counsel,
I can't represent you.

2735
02:25:05,382 --> 02:25:06,917
I'll call Lloyd Garrison.

2736
02:25:06,951 --> 02:25:08,486
Oh, he's good.

2737
02:25:08,519 --> 02:25:12,256
The best,
but I have to warn you...

2738
02:25:12,923 --> 02:25:15,359
...this won't be a fair fight.

2739
02:25:15,392 --> 02:25:17,394
<i>During your interview</i>

2740
02:25:17,428 --> 02:25:19,897
with Boris Pash in 1943,
did you refer to microfilm?

2741
02:25:19,930 --> 02:25:21,432
-No.
-Tab 11,

2742
02:25:21,465 --> 02:25:22,900
page one, paragraph three.
You never said,

2743
02:25:22,933 --> 02:25:26,570
"Man at the consulate expert
in the use of microfilm"?

2744
02:25:26,604 --> 02:25:27,938
-I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
-No.

2745
02:25:27,972 --> 02:25:28,906
I would like to know
what document

2746
02:25:28,939 --> 02:25:30,374
Mr. Robb is quoting from

2747
02:25:30,407 --> 02:25:31,675
and if we might be
furnished with a copy.

2748
02:25:31,709 --> 02:25:33,778
The document is classified,
Mr. Garrison.

2749
02:25:33,811 --> 02:25:35,646
I think we should get back
to first-hand information.

2750
02:25:35,679 --> 02:25:37,047
This is first-hand.

2751
02:25:37,082 --> 02:25:39,350
How so, Roger?

2752
02:25:40,718 --> 02:25:42,553
There was a recording
of the interview.

2753
02:25:46,524 --> 02:25:48,425
You let my client sit here

2754
02:25:48,459 --> 02:25:49,960
and potentially perjure himself,

2755
02:25:49,994 --> 02:25:52,530
and all this time,
you had a recording?

2756
02:25:52,563 --> 02:25:53,931
Nobody told your client

2757
02:25:53,964 --> 02:25:55,366
to misrepresent
his former answers.

2758
02:25:55,399 --> 02:25:57,468
Misrepre...
It-it was 12 years ago.

2759
02:25:57,501 --> 02:25:58,803
Can we hear this recording?

2760
02:25:58,836 --> 02:26:00,404
You don't have the clearance,
Mr. Garrison.

2761
02:26:00,437 --> 02:26:02,073
But you're reading it
into the record.

2762
02:26:02,107 --> 02:26:03,741
Please, please.

2763
02:26:03,774 --> 02:26:07,378
Is this proceeding interested
in entrapment or in truth?

2764
02:26:07,411 --> 02:26:09,847
If it's truth,
where's the disclosure?

2765
02:26:09,880 --> 02:26:11,515
Where's the witness list?

2766
02:26:11,549 --> 02:26:14,085
Mr. Garrison, this isn't
a trial, as you are well aware.

2767
02:26:14,119 --> 02:26:15,986
Evidentiary rules do not apply.

2768
02:26:16,020 --> 02:26:17,889
We are dealing
with national security.

2769
02:26:17,923 --> 02:26:19,424
Yes, sir, with all due respect,

2770
02:26:19,457 --> 02:26:21,827
I fail to see how
national security

2771
02:26:21,860 --> 02:26:23,562
prevents the prosecution
from providing us

2772
02:26:23,595 --> 02:26:25,597
-with a list of witnesses.
-Perhaps we are in need

2773
02:26:25,630 --> 02:26:26,932
-of a brief recess.
-Gentlemen,

2774
02:26:26,965 --> 02:26:28,700
you have my words.

2775
02:26:28,733 --> 02:26:30,869
If you say they're from a
transcript, then I'll accept it.

2776
02:26:30,902 --> 02:26:33,672
I've already explained
I made up a cock-and-bull story.

2777
02:26:33,705 --> 02:26:37,042
But why would anyone
make up such an elaborate story?

2778
02:26:37,076 --> 02:26:39,145
Because I was an idiot.

2779
02:26:39,178 --> 02:26:40,779
Why lie?

2780
02:26:40,812 --> 02:26:43,415
Well, clearly with
the intention of not revealing

2781
02:26:43,448 --> 02:26:45,517
who the intermediary was.

2782
02:26:45,550 --> 02:26:47,586
Your friend, Haakon Chevalier,
the Communist.

2783
02:26:47,619 --> 02:26:49,888
Is he still your friend?

2784
02:26:49,921 --> 02:26:51,356
Yes.

2785
02:26:53,458 --> 02:26:56,394
Dr. Rabi, thank you for coming.

2786
02:26:56,428 --> 02:26:58,130
Do you know who else
the prosecution has called?

2787
02:26:58,164 --> 02:27:00,498
Teller, obviously.

2788
02:27:01,466 --> 02:27:02,734
They've asked Lawrence.

2789
02:27:02,767 --> 02:27:03,602
What did he say?

2790
02:27:03,635 --> 02:27:06,538
He wasn't going
to help them, but...

2791
02:27:06,571 --> 02:27:07,505
But?

2792
02:27:07,539 --> 02:27:09,541
Strauss told him that
you and Ruth Tolman

2793
02:27:09,574 --> 02:27:12,010
<i>have been having</i>
<i>an affair for years.</i>

2794
02:27:12,043 --> 02:27:13,145
<i>The whole time you lived</i>

2795
02:27:13,179 --> 02:27:14,813
with them in Pasadena.

2796
02:27:14,846 --> 02:27:16,514
He convinced Lawrence

2797
02:27:16,548 --> 02:27:18,117
that Richard died
of a broken heart.

2798
02:27:18,150 --> 02:27:19,451
That's absurd.

2799
02:27:19,484 --> 02:27:22,020
-What part?
-The broken heart.

2800
02:27:22,054 --> 02:27:24,090
Richard never found out.

2801
02:27:24,123 --> 02:27:25,891
Is Lawrence gonna testify?

2802
02:27:25,924 --> 02:27:27,425
I don't know.

2803
02:27:27,959 --> 02:27:29,594
Dr. Rabi,

2804
02:27:29,628 --> 02:27:32,697
what governmental positions
do you currently hold?

2805
02:27:32,731 --> 02:27:35,634
I am the chairman of the
General Advisory Committee

2806
02:27:35,667 --> 02:27:38,570
to the AEC,
succeeding Dr. Oppenheimer.

2807
02:27:38,603 --> 02:27:41,439
And how long have
you known Dr. Oppenheimer?

2808
02:27:41,473 --> 02:27:43,075
Since 1928.

2809
02:27:43,109 --> 02:27:45,177
I... I know him quite well.

2810
02:27:45,211 --> 02:27:47,179
Well enough
to speak to the bearing

2811
02:27:47,213 --> 02:27:49,781
of his loyalty and character?

2812
02:27:49,814 --> 02:27:53,818
Dr. Oppenheimer is a man
of upstanding character.

2813
02:27:53,852 --> 02:27:56,521
And he is loyal
to the United States,

2814
02:27:56,554 --> 02:27:57,789
to his friends,

2815
02:27:57,822 --> 02:28:00,492
to the institutions
of which he is part.

2816
02:28:01,960 --> 02:28:02,994
Eat.

2817
02:28:21,980 --> 02:28:23,682
What was that?

2818
02:28:23,715 --> 02:28:25,750
Nothing to worry about.

2819
02:28:27,986 --> 02:28:29,721
<i>After the Russian A-bomb test,</i>

2820
02:28:29,754 --> 02:28:32,224
did Dr. Lawrence come to see you
about the hydrogen bomb?

2821
02:28:32,258 --> 02:28:34,060
You'd be better off asking him.

2822
02:28:34,093 --> 02:28:35,627
Well, I fully intend to.

2823
02:28:35,660 --> 02:28:38,231
Would you say
that Dr. Oppenheimer was

2824
02:28:38,265 --> 02:28:40,267
unalterably opposed
to the H-bomb?

2825
02:28:40,300 --> 02:28:43,103
No, he-he thought that
a fusion program

2826
02:28:43,136 --> 02:28:46,239
would come at the expense of our
awfully good fission program.

2827
02:28:46,273 --> 02:28:48,108
But that proved
not to be the case.

2828
02:28:48,141 --> 02:28:50,776
In the event both could be done.

2829
02:28:50,810 --> 02:28:53,113
Suppose that this board
did not feel satisfied

2830
02:28:53,146 --> 02:28:54,281
that in his testimony here,

2831
02:28:54,314 --> 02:28:56,582
Dr. Oppenheimer had been
wholly truthful.

2832
02:28:56,615 --> 02:28:59,819
What would you say whether
or not he should be cleared?

2833
02:28:59,852 --> 02:29:01,754
Why go through
all this against a man

2834
02:29:01,787 --> 02:29:03,990
who has accomplished
what Dr. Oppenheimer has?

2835
02:29:04,023 --> 02:29:05,658
Look at his record.

2836
02:29:05,691 --> 02:29:07,760
We have an A-bomb
and a whole series of it.

2837
02:29:07,793 --> 02:29:09,729
We have a whole series
of Super bombs.

2838
02:29:09,762 --> 02:29:11,731
What more do you want?

2839
02:29:11,764 --> 02:29:12,631
Mermaids?

2840
02:29:12,665 --> 02:29:14,967
But I've known Secretary Strauss

2841
02:29:15,001 --> 02:29:16,602
for many years,

2842
02:29:16,635 --> 02:29:19,905
and I feel it a necessity
to express the warm support

2843
02:29:19,939 --> 02:29:22,608
for science and scientists
Lewis has shown.

2844
02:29:22,641 --> 02:29:23,876
We'll break now,

2845
02:29:23,909 --> 02:29:25,711
unless there's
any immediate business.

2846
02:29:25,745 --> 02:29:28,281
Senator, I'd like
to once again request

2847
02:29:28,315 --> 02:29:30,983
that we're furnished
with a list of witnesses.

2848
02:29:31,017 --> 02:29:33,786
And I will remind the nominee
that we don't always

2849
02:29:33,819 --> 02:29:35,821
have that information
in advance.

2850
02:29:35,855 --> 02:29:39,292
We do know that Dr. Hill
will be here after lunch.

2851
02:29:39,326 --> 02:29:40,960
Mr. Chairman,
our next scheduled witness,

2852
02:29:40,993 --> 02:29:45,531
Dr. Lawrence, has apparently
come down with colitis.

2853
02:29:46,999 --> 02:29:49,902
So we'll proceed with
William Borden instead.

2854
02:29:51,171 --> 02:29:52,571
Mr. Borden, welcome.

2855
02:29:52,605 --> 02:29:54,074
Please take a seat.

2856
02:29:55,242 --> 02:29:57,643
Mr. Borden,

2857
02:29:57,676 --> 02:30:00,247
during your investigation
into Dr. Oppenheimer,

2858
02:30:00,280 --> 02:30:01,914
did you reach
certain conclusions?

2859
02:30:01,947 --> 02:30:04,251
-I did.
-And did there come a time

2860
02:30:04,284 --> 02:30:05,751
when you expressed
those conclusions

2861
02:30:05,785 --> 02:30:07,787
in a letter
to Mr. J. Edgar Hoover

2862
02:30:07,820 --> 02:30:09,755
of the Federal Bureau
of Investigation?

2863
02:30:09,789 --> 02:30:11,191
-That is correct.
-Prior to the writing

2864
02:30:11,224 --> 02:30:12,992
of the letter, did you discuss
the writing of the letter

2865
02:30:13,025 --> 02:30:15,328
with anybody attached to
the Atomic Energy Commission?

2866
02:30:15,362 --> 02:30:16,962
I did not.

2867
02:30:16,996 --> 02:30:18,331
Thanks, and do you have
a copy of the letter?

2868
02:30:18,365 --> 02:30:19,965
I have one in front of me.

2869
02:30:19,999 --> 02:30:22,102
Would you please be so kind
as to read it, sir?

2870
02:30:22,135 --> 02:30:23,669
"Dear Mr. Hoover,

2871
02:30:23,702 --> 02:30:25,138
the purpose of this letter
is to state..."

2872
02:30:25,172 --> 02:30:27,207
Uh, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, if I could have a...

2873
02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:29,608
What is the purpose
of the delay?

2874
02:30:29,642 --> 02:30:31,111
He's simply gonna
read the letter.

2875
02:30:31,144 --> 02:30:32,678
Mr. Chairman,

2876
02:30:32,711 --> 02:30:34,713
this is the first
I've seen of this letter,

2877
02:30:34,747 --> 02:30:36,015
and I see statements here, uh,

2878
02:30:36,048 --> 02:30:38,017
at least one,
of a kind that I don't think

2879
02:30:38,050 --> 02:30:40,019
anyone would like to see
go into the record.

2880
02:30:40,052 --> 02:30:42,822
These are accusations that have
not previously been made.

2881
02:30:42,855 --> 02:30:44,790
That are not part of
the indictment from Nichols.

2882
02:30:44,824 --> 02:30:46,959
Accusations of a kind that
I don't think belong here.

2883
02:30:46,992 --> 02:30:49,162
The witness wrote this letter
on his own initiative,

2884
02:30:49,196 --> 02:30:51,764
laying out evidence that has
already been before the board.

2885
02:30:51,797 --> 02:30:53,400
His conclusions
are valid testimony,

2886
02:30:53,433 --> 02:30:55,335
just like the...
the positive conclusions

2887
02:30:55,368 --> 02:30:56,702
of friends of Dr. Oppenheimer.

2888
02:30:56,735 --> 02:30:58,238
It cuts both ways.

2889
02:30:58,271 --> 02:31:00,707
How long has Counsel been
in possession of this letter?

2890
02:31:00,740 --> 02:31:02,110
I don't think
I should be subject

2891
02:31:02,143 --> 02:31:04,711
to cross-examination by you,
Mr. Garrison.

2892
02:31:04,744 --> 02:31:06,380
Mr. Garrison,
given that we on the board

2893
02:31:06,414 --> 02:31:07,914
have all read the letter,

2894
02:31:07,948 --> 02:31:10,284
wouldn't it be better
to have it in the record?

2895
02:31:10,318 --> 02:31:11,785
Let's proceed.

2896
02:31:13,787 --> 02:31:15,256
"Dear Mr. Hoover,

2897
02:31:15,289 --> 02:31:18,725
"the purpose of this letter
is to state my opinion

2898
02:31:18,758 --> 02:31:20,061
"based upon years of study

2899
02:31:20,094 --> 02:31:22,863
"of the available
classified evidence,

2900
02:31:22,896 --> 02:31:24,931
"that more probably than not,

2901
02:31:24,965 --> 02:31:29,836
"J. Robert Oppenheimer is
an agent of the Soviet Union.

2902
02:31:29,870 --> 02:31:32,206
"The following conclusions
are justified.

2903
02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:37,078
"One, between 1929 and 1942,
more probably than not,

2904
02:31:37,111 --> 02:31:38,412
"J. Robert Oppenheimer

2905
02:31:38,446 --> 02:31:40,747
"was a sufficiently
hardened Communist,

2906
02:31:40,780 --> 02:31:42,883
"that he volunteered
information to the Soviets.

2907
02:31:42,916 --> 02:31:45,253
"Two, more probably than not,

2908
02:31:45,286 --> 02:31:49,856
"he has since been functioning
as an espionage agent.

2909
02:31:49,890 --> 02:31:52,726
"Three, more probably than not,

2910
02:31:52,759 --> 02:31:54,995
"he has since acted
under a Soviet directive

2911
02:31:55,028 --> 02:31:57,764
in influencing United States
military policy..."

2912
02:31:57,797 --> 02:31:59,032
I'm sorry, Robert.

2913
02:31:59,066 --> 02:32:00,401
"...atomic energy, intelligence

2914
02:32:00,434 --> 02:32:01,801
-and diplomatic policy."
-Is anyone

2915
02:32:01,835 --> 02:32:03,471
ever going to tell the truth

2916
02:32:03,504 --> 02:32:05,273
about what's happening here?

2917
02:32:05,306 --> 02:32:08,842
<i>We will now</i>
<i>hear from Dr. David Hill.</i>

2918
02:32:18,085 --> 02:32:19,420
Dr. Hill,

2919
02:32:19,453 --> 02:32:22,089
would you care
to make a statement?

2920
02:32:23,224 --> 02:32:24,791
Thank you.

2921
02:32:24,824 --> 02:32:28,496
I've been asked to testify
about Lewis Strauss.

2922
02:32:28,529 --> 02:32:30,931
A man who has
given years of service

2923
02:32:30,964 --> 02:32:33,934
in high positions of government

2924
02:32:33,967 --> 02:32:38,905
and who is known to be earnest,
hardworking and intelligent.

2925
02:32:39,906 --> 02:32:41,409
The views I have to express
are my own,

2926
02:32:41,442 --> 02:32:45,146
but I believe that much I have
to say will help to indicate

2927
02:32:45,179 --> 02:32:48,882
why most of the scientists
in this country

2928
02:32:48,915 --> 02:32:51,918
would prefer to see Mr. Strauss

2929
02:32:51,952 --> 02:32:53,787
completely out of government.

2930
02:32:55,822 --> 02:32:58,326
You're... You're referring
to the hostility

2931
02:32:58,359 --> 02:32:59,826
of certain scientists

2932
02:32:59,859 --> 02:33:01,495
directed toward Mr. Strauss

2933
02:33:01,529 --> 02:33:03,763
because of his commitment
to security

2934
02:33:03,797 --> 02:33:06,800
as demonstrated
in the Oppenheimer affair?

2935
02:33:09,270 --> 02:33:10,538
No.

2936
02:33:10,571 --> 02:33:12,973
Because of the personal
vindictiveness

2937
02:33:13,006 --> 02:33:15,243
he demonstrated against
Dr. Oppenheimer.

2938
02:33:16,910 --> 02:33:19,045
Order.

2939
02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:20,114
Order!

2940
02:33:20,147 --> 02:33:25,420
It appears to most
scientists around this country

2941
02:33:25,454 --> 02:33:26,988
that Robert Oppenheimer
is now being

2942
02:33:27,021 --> 02:33:29,258
pilloried and put through
an ordeal

2943
02:33:29,291 --> 02:33:32,394
because he expressed
his honest opinions.

2944
02:33:33,395 --> 02:33:35,464
Dr. Bush, I thought
I was performing a service

2945
02:33:35,497 --> 02:33:37,232
to my country
when hearing this case.

2946
02:33:37,266 --> 02:33:41,403
No board in this country
should sit in judgment of a man

2947
02:33:41,436 --> 02:33:44,072
because he expressed
strong opinions.

2948
02:33:44,106 --> 02:33:47,175
If you want to try that case,
you should try me.

2949
02:33:47,209 --> 02:33:51,213
Excuse me, gentlemen,
if I become stirred,

2950
02:33:51,246 --> 02:33:52,447
but I am.

2951
02:33:52,481 --> 02:33:54,449
Dr. Hill, we've already heard

2952
02:33:54,483 --> 02:33:56,917
that Mr. Strauss
did not bring the charges

2953
02:33:56,951 --> 02:34:00,021
or participate in the hearings
against Dr. Oppenheimer.

2954
02:34:00,054 --> 02:34:02,557
The Oppenheimer matter was

2955
02:34:02,591 --> 02:34:04,959
initiated and carried through

2956
02:34:04,992 --> 02:34:07,362
largely through the animus
of Lewis Strauss.

2957
02:34:08,963 --> 02:34:11,600
Oppenheimer made mincemeat
out of Strauss's position

2958
02:34:11,633 --> 02:34:13,235
on the shipment
of isotopes to Norway,

2959
02:34:13,268 --> 02:34:17,272
and Strauss never forgave him
this public humiliation.

2960
02:34:17,306 --> 02:34:19,907
Another controversy between them
centered around

2961
02:34:19,940 --> 02:34:22,910
their differences in judgment
on how the H-bomb

2962
02:34:22,943 --> 02:34:25,012
<i>would contribute</i>
<i>to national security.</i>

2963
02:34:25,046 --> 02:34:27,014
Strauss turned to
the personnel security system

2964
02:34:27,048 --> 02:34:31,286
in order to destroy
Oppenheimer's effectiveness,

2965
02:34:31,320 --> 02:34:33,854
and Strauss was able to find
a few ambitious men

2966
02:34:33,888 --> 02:34:36,924
who also disagreed
with Oppenheimer's positions

2967
02:34:36,957 --> 02:34:39,994
and envied him his prestige
in government circles.

2968
02:34:40,027 --> 02:34:42,631
I've always assumed,
and still assume,

2969
02:34:42,664 --> 02:34:44,899
that he's loyal
to the United States.

2970
02:34:44,932 --> 02:34:46,335
I believe this.
And I shall believe it

2971
02:34:46,368 --> 02:34:48,936
until I see very conclusive
proof to the opposite.

2972
02:34:48,969 --> 02:34:50,938
Do you or do you not believe

2973
02:34:50,971 --> 02:34:53,275
that Dr. Oppenheimer
is a security risk?

2974
02:34:57,011 --> 02:34:58,280
In a great number of cases,

2975
02:34:58,313 --> 02:35:00,282
I have seen Dr. Oppenheimer
act in a way

2976
02:35:00,315 --> 02:35:04,186
which was to me
exceedingly hard to understand.

2977
02:35:04,219 --> 02:35:06,221
I thoroughly disagreed
with him in numerous issues,

2978
02:35:06,254 --> 02:35:08,357
and his actions frankly
appeared to me

2979
02:35:08,390 --> 02:35:09,924
confused and complicated.

2980
02:35:09,957 --> 02:35:11,493
To this extent, I feel,

2981
02:35:11,526 --> 02:35:14,629
I want to see the vital
interest of this country

2982
02:35:14,663 --> 02:35:16,498
in hands which
I understand better

2983
02:35:16,531 --> 02:35:18,667
and therefore trust more.

2984
02:35:18,700 --> 02:35:21,470
-Thank you, Doctor.
-Thank you.

2985
02:35:25,273 --> 02:35:26,375
I'm sorry.

2986
02:35:29,009 --> 02:35:31,179
<i>You shook his fucking hand?</i>

2987
02:35:31,213 --> 02:35:34,116
Oh, I would have
spit in his face.

2988
02:35:34,149 --> 02:35:35,684
Not sure the board
would have appreciated that.

2989
02:35:35,717 --> 02:35:37,285
Is it not
gentlemanly enough for you?

2990
02:35:37,319 --> 02:35:40,655
Well, I-I think you're all being
too goddamn gentlemanly.

2991
02:35:40,689 --> 02:35:42,658
Gray must see
what Robb is doing.

2992
02:35:42,692 --> 02:35:44,627
Why doesn't he just
shut him down?

2993
02:35:44,660 --> 02:35:47,263
And you shaking Teller's hand.

2994
02:35:47,296 --> 02:35:50,166
You need to stop
playing the martyr.

2995
02:35:51,167 --> 02:35:53,569
Under the current
AEC guidelines,

2996
02:35:53,603 --> 02:35:56,004
would you clear
Dr. Oppenheimer today?

2997
02:36:02,178 --> 02:36:04,547
Under my interpretation

2998
02:36:04,580 --> 02:36:06,716
of the Atomic Energy Act,

2999
02:36:06,749 --> 02:36:08,584
which did not exist

3000
02:36:08,618 --> 02:36:11,454
when I hired
Dr. Oppenheimer in 1942...

3001
02:36:12,688 --> 02:36:16,092
I would not clear him today,

3002
02:36:16,125 --> 02:36:18,094
uh, if I were on the commission.

3003
02:36:18,127 --> 02:36:19,695
Good. Thank you, General.
That is all.

3004
02:36:19,729 --> 02:36:21,731
But I don't think I'd clear
any of those guys.

3005
02:36:21,764 --> 02:36:23,932
That's all.

3006
02:36:26,436 --> 02:36:28,571
Dr. Oppenheimer
had no responsibility

3007
02:36:28,604 --> 02:36:30,106
in the selection
or the clearance

3008
02:36:30,139 --> 02:36:31,441
of Klaus Fuchs, did he?

3009
02:36:31,474 --> 02:36:32,742
No. None at all.

3010
02:36:32,775 --> 02:36:34,377
And you wouldn't want
to leave this board

3011
02:36:34,410 --> 02:36:37,180
with any suggestion today
that you're here questioning

3012
02:36:37,213 --> 02:36:39,248
his basic loyalty
to the United States

3013
02:36:39,282 --> 02:36:40,683
in the operation of Los Alamos?

3014
02:36:40,716 --> 02:36:42,285
By no means.

3015
02:36:42,318 --> 02:36:44,320
I hope I didn't lead anyone
to believe otherwise

3016
02:36:44,353 --> 02:36:45,987
for an instant.

3017
02:36:46,021 --> 02:36:47,123
Thank you, General.

3018
02:37:05,174 --> 02:37:07,443
Okay. We shouldn't
keep them waiting.

3019
02:37:07,477 --> 02:37:08,744
She'll be here.

3020
02:37:08,778 --> 02:37:10,213
Do you even want her here?

3021
02:37:10,246 --> 02:37:12,748
Only a fool or an adolescent

3022
02:37:12,782 --> 02:37:14,684
presumes to know
someone else's relationship,

3023
02:37:14,717 --> 02:37:17,018
and you're neither, Lloyd.

3024
02:37:18,588 --> 02:37:20,556
Kitty and I,

3025
02:37:20,590 --> 02:37:22,658
we're grown-ups.

3026
02:37:22,692 --> 02:37:25,528
<i>We've walked</i>
<i>through fire together.</i>

3027
02:37:25,561 --> 02:37:28,130
She'll do fine.

3028
02:37:28,164 --> 02:37:30,233
Would you describe
your views on Communism

3029
02:37:30,266 --> 02:37:32,301
as pro, anti, neutral?

3030
02:37:32,335 --> 02:37:34,203
Very strongly against.

3031
02:37:34,237 --> 02:37:36,372
I-I've had nothing to do
with Communism in... since...

3032
02:37:36,405 --> 02:37:39,242
since 1936, since...

3033
02:37:39,275 --> 02:37:42,144
since before I met Robert.

3034
02:37:42,745 --> 02:37:44,580
That's all.

3035
02:37:44,614 --> 02:37:46,182
<i>The record demonstrates</i>

3036
02:37:46,215 --> 02:37:47,817
<i>that Oppenheimer</i>
<i>was not interrogated</i>

3037
02:37:47,850 --> 02:37:51,087
<i>by impartial and disinterested</i>
<i>counsel for the Gray board.</i>

3038
02:37:51,120 --> 02:37:52,522
<i>He was interrogated</i>
<i>by a prosecutor</i>

3039
02:37:52,555 --> 02:37:54,223
<i>who used all the tricks</i>

3040
02:37:54,257 --> 02:37:56,058
<i>of a rather ingenious</i>
<i>legal background.</i>

3041
02:37:56,092 --> 02:37:57,527
You are charging now

3042
02:37:57,560 --> 02:38:00,530
that the Gray board
permitted a prosecution.

3043
02:38:00,563 --> 02:38:03,266
If I were on the Gray board,

3044
02:38:03,299 --> 02:38:05,269
I would have protested
against the tactics

3045
02:38:05,302 --> 02:38:08,205
of the man who served, in fact,
as the prosecuting counsel.

3046
02:38:08,238 --> 02:38:11,441
A man appointed not by the board

3047
02:38:11,475 --> 02:38:13,544
but by Lewis Strauss.

3048
02:38:15,546 --> 02:38:16,580
Who was this?

3049
02:38:17,881 --> 02:38:19,716
I'm sorry?

3050
02:38:19,750 --> 02:38:20,817
Who was this?

3051
02:38:20,851 --> 02:38:22,286
Uh, Roger Robb.

3052
02:38:22,319 --> 02:38:24,655
Mrs. Oppenheimer.

3053
02:38:28,859 --> 02:38:31,295
Did you have a Communist Party
membership card?

3054
02:38:32,729 --> 02:38:34,831
I'm... I'm not sure.

3055
02:38:34,865 --> 02:38:36,366
Not sure?

3056
02:38:39,336 --> 02:38:40,337
Well...

3057
02:38:42,739 --> 02:38:44,474
Well?

3058
02:38:53,417 --> 02:38:56,386
I mean, presumably,
the act of joining the Party

3059
02:38:56,420 --> 02:39:00,190
required sending some money
and receiving a card, no?

3060
02:39:03,360 --> 02:39:04,494
Yeah.

3061
02:39:09,866 --> 02:39:11,268
Sorry.

3062
02:39:11,902 --> 02:39:13,503
Yes. Mm.

3063
02:39:15,339 --> 02:39:17,341
It's just it was all
so very long ago,

3064
02:39:17,374 --> 02:39:19,209
-Mr. Robb, wasn't it?
-Not really.

3065
02:39:19,242 --> 02:39:20,477
Long enough to have forgotten.

3066
02:39:20,510 --> 02:39:21,878
Did you return the card
or rip it up?

3067
02:39:21,912 --> 02:39:23,513
The card whose existence
I've forgotten?

3068
02:39:23,547 --> 02:39:25,349
Your Communist Party
membership card.

3069
02:39:25,382 --> 02:39:27,117
Haven't the slightest idea.

3070
02:39:29,419 --> 02:39:32,189
Can a distinction
be made between

3071
02:39:32,222 --> 02:39:33,890
Soviet Communism and Communism?

3072
02:39:33,924 --> 02:39:35,492
Well, in the days
when I was a member,

3073
02:39:35,525 --> 02:39:37,160
I thought they were
definitely two things.

3074
02:39:37,194 --> 02:39:38,462
-Oh?
-I thought that

3075
02:39:38,495 --> 02:39:40,364
the Communist Party
of the United States

3076
02:39:40,397 --> 02:39:42,799
was concerned with
our domestic problems.

3077
02:39:42,833 --> 02:39:44,301
I now no longer believe this.

3078
02:39:44,334 --> 02:39:45,369
Believe the whole thing's
linked together

3079
02:39:45,402 --> 02:39:46,670
and spread all over the world,

3080
02:39:46,703 --> 02:39:48,905
and I have believed this
since I left the Party

3081
02:39:48,939 --> 02:39:50,407
16 years ago.

3082
02:39:50,440 --> 02:39:51,742
-But...
-Seventeen years ago.

3083
02:39:51,775 --> 02:39:53,176
My mistake.

3084
02:39:53,210 --> 02:39:55,846
-But you said...
-Sorry, 18.

3085
02:39:55,879 --> 02:39:58,148
Eighteen years ago.

3086
02:39:58,949 --> 02:40:00,250
Are you familiar with the fact

3087
02:40:00,283 --> 02:40:01,451
your husband was
making contributions

3088
02:40:01,485 --> 02:40:04,554
to the Spanish Civil War
as late as 1942?

3089
02:40:04,588 --> 02:40:06,456
I knew that Robert gave money
from time to time.

3090
02:40:06,490 --> 02:40:07,724
Did you know
this money was going

3091
02:40:07,758 --> 02:40:09,192
into Communist Party channels?

3092
02:40:09,226 --> 02:40:10,661
Don't you mean "through"?

3093
02:40:10,694 --> 02:40:12,462
-Pardon?
-I think you mean

3094
02:40:12,496 --> 02:40:14,297
"through Communist Party
channels," don't you?

3095
02:40:14,331 --> 02:40:15,565
-Y-Yes!
-Yes?

3096
02:40:15,599 --> 02:40:17,501
-Yes!
-Yes.

3097
02:40:17,534 --> 02:40:21,238
Then would it be fair to say
that this meant that by 1942,

3098
02:40:21,271 --> 02:40:22,572
your husband had not stopped

3099
02:40:22,606 --> 02:40:24,541
having anything to do
with the Communist Party?

3100
02:40:24,574 --> 02:40:26,377
You don't have
to answer that yes or no.

3101
02:40:26,411 --> 02:40:27,779
You can answer that
any way you wish.

3102
02:40:27,812 --> 02:40:29,681
I know that, thank you.

3103
02:40:29,714 --> 02:40:31,416
It's your question.

3104
02:40:31,449 --> 02:40:33,351
-It's not properly phrased.
-Do you understand

3105
02:40:33,384 --> 02:40:34,619
-what I'm getting at?
-I do.

3106
02:40:34,652 --> 02:40:35,920
Then why don't you
answer it that way?

3107
02:40:35,953 --> 02:40:37,555
'Cause I don't like your phrase.

3108
02:40:37,588 --> 02:40:39,524
"Having anything to do
with the Communist Party."

3109
02:40:39,557 --> 02:40:41,359
Because Robert never
had anything to do

3110
02:40:41,392 --> 02:40:42,694
with the Communist Party
as such.

3111
02:40:42,727 --> 02:40:45,363
I know he gave money
to Spanish refugees.

3112
02:40:45,396 --> 02:40:47,331
I know he took
an intellectual interest

3113
02:40:47,365 --> 02:40:48,566
in Communist ideas...

3114
02:40:48,599 --> 02:40:49,701
Are there two types
of Communists?

3115
02:40:49,734 --> 02:40:51,436
Intellectual Communists

3116
02:40:51,469 --> 02:40:53,404
and your plain old
regular Commie?

3117
02:40:54,405 --> 02:40:55,973
Well, I couldn't
answer that one.

3118
02:40:56,007 --> 02:40:58,776
I couldn't either.

3119
02:41:04,916 --> 02:41:06,718
Evening.

3120
02:41:06,751 --> 02:41:08,486
Robert,
you can't win this thing.

3121
02:41:08,519 --> 02:41:10,455
It's a kangaroo court
with a predetermined outcome.

3122
02:41:10,488 --> 02:41:12,423
Why put yourself
through more of it?

3123
02:41:13,024 --> 02:41:15,460
I have my reasons.

3124
02:41:16,061 --> 02:41:17,495
All right.

3125
02:41:17,528 --> 02:41:18,663
Good night.

3126
02:41:23,367 --> 02:41:24,769
He has a point.

3127
02:41:25,703 --> 02:41:27,739
I'm not sure
you understand, Albert.

3128
02:41:27,772 --> 02:41:28,873
No?

3129
02:41:28,906 --> 02:41:32,410
I left my country
never to return.

3130
02:41:33,044 --> 02:41:35,012
You served your country well.

3131
02:41:35,046 --> 02:41:38,683
If this is the reward
she offers you, then...

3132
02:41:38,716 --> 02:41:42,353
perhaps you should
turn your back on her.

3133
02:41:42,386 --> 02:41:45,022
Damn it, I happen
to love this country.

3134
02:41:45,056 --> 02:41:47,658
Then tell them to go to hell.

3135
02:41:47,692 --> 02:41:48,593
Interestingly enough,

3136
02:41:48,626 --> 02:41:51,696
this is no longer
a confirmation hearing,

3137
02:41:51,729 --> 02:41:53,898
it's now a trial...

3138
02:41:53,931 --> 02:41:55,666
about a trial!

3139
02:41:56,667 --> 02:41:57,969
It's not good
he's telling everyone

3140
02:41:58,002 --> 02:41:59,303
you initiated the hearings.

3141
02:41:59,337 --> 02:42:01,706
He can't prove a goddamn thing.

3142
02:42:01,739 --> 02:42:04,408
He certainly can't prove
that I gave the file to Borden.

3143
02:42:04,442 --> 02:42:06,778
We're not in court, sir.

3144
02:42:06,811 --> 02:42:08,012
There's no burden of proof.

3145
02:42:08,045 --> 02:42:10,414
Right. They're not convicting...

3146
02:42:10,448 --> 02:42:11,716
just denying.

3147
02:42:11,749 --> 02:42:14,652
Why would Hill come here
to tear me down?

3148
02:42:14,685 --> 02:42:16,320
What's his angle?

3149
02:42:16,354 --> 02:42:18,456
Do people need a reason
to do the right thing?

3150
02:42:18,489 --> 02:42:20,092
-As he sees it.
-I told you,

3151
02:42:20,125 --> 02:42:22,794
Oppenheimer poisoned
the scientists against me,

3152
02:42:22,827 --> 02:42:24,529
right from that first meeting.

3153
02:42:24,562 --> 02:42:27,799
<i>I don't know what Oppenheimer</i>
<i>said to him that day,</i>

3154
02:42:27,832 --> 02:42:30,568
but Einstein wouldn't
even meet my eye.

3155
02:42:31,669 --> 02:42:34,772
<i>Oppenheimer knows</i>
<i>how to manipulate his own.</i>

3156
02:42:34,806 --> 02:42:36,074
And at Los Alamos,

3157
02:42:36,108 --> 02:42:38,442
he preyed
on the naivete of scientists

3158
02:42:38,476 --> 02:42:40,778
who thought they'd get a say
in how we used their work,

3159
02:42:40,812 --> 02:42:43,815
but don't ever think
he was that naive himself.

3160
02:42:43,848 --> 02:42:45,117
Doctor.

3161
02:42:45,150 --> 02:42:47,120
During your work
on the hydrogen bomb,

3162
02:42:47,153 --> 02:42:50,823
were you deterred
by any moral qualms?

3163
02:42:50,856 --> 02:42:52,491
Yes, of course.

3164
02:42:52,524 --> 02:42:53,826
But you still got on
with your work, didn't you?

3165
02:42:53,859 --> 02:42:56,095
Yes, because this was
work of exploration,

3166
02:42:56,129 --> 02:42:58,363
it was not the preparation
of a weapon.

3167
02:42:58,397 --> 02:43:00,465
You mean it was more of a...
an academic excursion.

3168
02:43:00,499 --> 02:43:02,401
No, it is not an academic thing

3169
02:43:02,434 --> 02:43:03,836
whether you can build
a hydrogen bomb.

3170
02:43:03,869 --> 02:43:05,470
It's a matter of life and death.

3171
02:43:05,504 --> 02:43:06,872
By 1942, you were
actively pushing

3172
02:43:06,905 --> 02:43:08,473
the development of
the hydrogen bomb, weren't you?

3173
02:43:08,507 --> 02:43:09,741
Pushing's not the right word.

3174
02:43:09,775 --> 02:43:11,710
Supporting it
and working on it, yes.

3175
02:43:11,743 --> 02:43:14,080
So when did these moral qualms
become so strong

3176
02:43:14,113 --> 02:43:15,747
that you actively opposed

3177
02:43:15,781 --> 02:43:17,449
the development
of the hydrogen bomb?

3178
02:43:17,482 --> 02:43:19,451
When it was suggested
that it be the policy

3179
02:43:19,484 --> 02:43:21,653
of the United States to make
these things at all cost

3180
02:43:21,687 --> 02:43:23,689
without regard to the balance
between these weapons

3181
02:43:23,722 --> 02:43:26,792
and atomic weapons
as part of our arsenal.

3182
02:43:28,161 --> 02:43:30,096
What do moral qualms
have to do with that?

3183
02:43:30,129 --> 02:43:32,165
Wha... What do moral qualms

3184
02:43:32,198 --> 02:43:33,732
-have to do with it?
-Yes.

3185
02:43:33,765 --> 02:43:35,834
Oppenheimer wanted
to own the atomic bomb.

3186
02:43:35,868 --> 02:43:37,769
He wanted to be the man
who moved the Earth.

3187
02:43:37,803 --> 02:43:40,973
He talks about
putting the nuclear genie

3188
02:43:41,006 --> 02:43:42,474
back in the bottle.

3189
02:43:42,507 --> 02:43:43,642
Well, I'm here to tell you

3190
02:43:43,675 --> 02:43:45,878
that I know
J. Robert Oppenheimer,

3191
02:43:45,911 --> 02:43:50,015
and if he could do it all over,
he'd do it all the same.

3192
02:43:50,048 --> 02:43:53,086
You know he's never once said
that he regrets Hiroshima?

3193
02:43:53,119 --> 02:43:55,988
He'd do it all over. Why?

3194
02:43:56,021 --> 02:43:57,456
Because it made him

3195
02:43:57,489 --> 02:43:59,125
the most important man
who ever lived.

3196
02:43:59,158 --> 02:44:01,493
Well, we've...

3197
02:44:01,526 --> 02:44:03,629
we've freely used
the atomic bomb...

3198
02:44:03,662 --> 02:44:05,764
In fact, Doctor,
you assisted in selecting

3199
02:44:05,797 --> 02:44:07,200
the target to drop
the atomic bomb on Japan,

3200
02:44:07,233 --> 02:44:08,901
-didn't you?
-Yes.

3201
02:44:08,934 --> 02:44:10,569
Well, then you knew,
did you not, that by dropping

3202
02:44:10,602 --> 02:44:12,771
that atomic bomb
on the target you selected,

3203
02:44:12,804 --> 02:44:14,207
that thousands of civilians
would be killed

3204
02:44:14,240 --> 02:44:15,974
or injured, is that correct?

3205
02:44:16,008 --> 02:44:17,910
Yes, not as many
as turned out...

3206
02:44:17,943 --> 02:44:20,146
Oh. Well, how many
were killed or injured?

3207
02:44:20,179 --> 02:44:22,047
-70,000.
-70,000

3208
02:44:22,081 --> 02:44:23,149
at both Hiroshima and...

3209
02:44:23,182 --> 02:44:24,616
110,000 at both.

3210
02:44:24,650 --> 02:44:26,051
On the day of each bombing?

3211
02:44:28,020 --> 02:44:29,188
Yes.

3212
02:44:29,222 --> 02:44:30,789
And in the weeks
and years that followed?

3213
02:44:30,822 --> 02:44:33,525
It has been put at somewhere
between 50 and 100,000.

3214
02:44:33,558 --> 02:44:35,661
-220,000 dead at least?
-Yes.

3215
02:44:35,694 --> 02:44:37,596
Any moral scruples about that?

3216
02:44:38,964 --> 02:44:40,066
Terrible ones.

3217
02:44:40,099 --> 02:44:41,667
But yet you testified in here

3218
02:44:41,700 --> 02:44:44,070
that the bombing of Hiroshima
was very successful.

3219
02:44:44,103 --> 02:44:45,671
-Technically successful.
-Oh!

3220
02:44:45,704 --> 02:44:47,472
Technically, it was
very successful.

3221
02:44:47,506 --> 02:44:48,974
And it is also alleged
to have helped end the war.

3222
02:44:49,007 --> 02:44:50,976
Would you have been
in support of the dropping

3223
02:44:51,009 --> 02:44:52,945
of a hydrogen bomb on Hiroshima?

3224
02:44:52,978 --> 02:44:54,513
That would make no sense at all.

3225
02:44:54,546 --> 02:44:56,982
-Why?
-The-the target is too small.

3226
02:44:57,015 --> 02:44:59,518
Well, supposing there had been
a target in Japan

3227
02:44:59,551 --> 02:45:01,019
big enough for
a thermonuclear weapon,

3228
02:45:01,053 --> 02:45:02,821
would you have been opposed
to the dropping of it?

3229
02:45:02,854 --> 02:45:04,690
This was not a problem
with which I was confronted...

3230
02:45:04,723 --> 02:45:06,159
Well, I'm confronting you
with it now, sir.

3231
02:45:06,192 --> 02:45:07,961
It was all part of his plan.

3232
02:45:07,994 --> 02:45:09,562
He wanted the glorious,

3233
02:45:09,595 --> 02:45:11,764
insincere guilt
of the self-important

3234
02:45:11,798 --> 02:45:13,267
to wear like a fuckin' crown.

3235
02:45:13,300 --> 02:45:16,736
Say, "No, we cannot
go down this road,"

3236
02:45:16,769 --> 02:45:19,572
even as he knew we'd have to.

3237
02:45:19,605 --> 02:45:21,141
Would you have been opposed
to the dropping

3238
02:45:21,175 --> 02:45:22,842
of a thermonuclear weapon
on Japan

3239
02:45:22,875 --> 02:45:25,112
-because of moral scruples?
-Yes, I believe I would, sir.

3240
02:45:25,145 --> 02:45:26,846
Well, did you oppose
the dropping

3241
02:45:26,879 --> 02:45:28,881
of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima
because of moral scruples?

3242
02:45:28,915 --> 02:45:30,550
We set forth our arguments...

3243
02:45:30,583 --> 02:45:31,985
No, you, you, you.
I'm asking you.

3244
02:45:32,018 --> 02:45:33,653
-I set... I set forth...
-Not we. You, you, you!

3245
02:45:33,686 --> 02:45:35,289
...our arguments
against dropping it,

3246
02:45:35,322 --> 02:45:36,856
but I did not endorse them.

3247
02:45:36,889 --> 02:45:38,591
You mean after
working night and day

3248
02:45:38,624 --> 02:45:39,993
for three years
building the bomb,

3249
02:45:40,026 --> 02:45:41,861
you then argued against
the use of it?

3250
02:45:41,894 --> 02:45:44,597
I was asked
by the Secretary of War

3251
02:45:44,630 --> 02:45:45,999
what the views
of scientists were.

3252
02:45:46,032 --> 02:45:48,768
I gave him the views against
and the views for.

3253
02:45:48,801 --> 02:45:50,803
You supported the dropping
of the atom bomb on Japan.

3254
02:45:50,837 --> 02:45:52,306
-What do you mean "support"?
-Didn't you?

3255
02:45:52,339 --> 02:45:53,806
-You supported it!
-What do you mean "support"?

3256
02:45:53,840 --> 02:45:55,175
Well, you helped
pick the target, didn't you?

3257
02:45:55,209 --> 02:45:56,843
I did my job.

3258
02:45:56,876 --> 02:45:58,611
I was not in a policy-making
position at Los Alamos.

3259
02:45:58,644 --> 02:46:00,280
I would have done anything
I was asked to do.

3260
02:46:00,314 --> 02:46:02,582
Well, then you would have
built the H-bomb too,

3261
02:46:02,615 --> 02:46:03,750
-wouldn't you?
-I couldn't.

3262
02:46:03,783 --> 02:46:05,685
I didn't ask you that, Doctor!

3263
02:46:05,718 --> 02:46:08,054
And the GAC report
which you co-authored

3264
02:46:08,088 --> 02:46:09,956
after the Soviet
atomic test said

3265
02:46:09,989 --> 02:46:12,658
a Super bomb
should never be built!

3266
02:46:12,692 --> 02:46:14,027
What we meant,
what I meant was...

3267
02:46:14,060 --> 02:46:16,130
-What you, who? Who?
-What I meant...

3268
02:46:17,897 --> 02:46:19,333
And wouldn't the Russians
do anything

3269
02:46:19,366 --> 02:46:21,634
to increase their strength?

3270
02:46:21,667 --> 02:46:23,636
If we did it,
they would have to do it.

3271
02:46:23,669 --> 02:46:25,705
Our efforts would only
fuel their efforts,

3272
02:46:25,738 --> 02:46:27,840
just as it had
with the atomic bomb.

3273
02:46:27,874 --> 02:46:31,278
"Just as it had with
the atomic bomb," exactly!

3274
02:46:31,311 --> 02:46:36,049
No moral scruples in 1945,
plenty in 1949.

3275
02:46:40,187 --> 02:46:42,021
Dr. Oppenheimer...

3276
02:46:43,689 --> 02:46:46,293
...when did your strong
moral convictions develop

3277
02:46:46,326 --> 02:46:49,129
with respect
to the hydrogen bomb?

3278
02:46:56,170 --> 02:46:59,073
When it became clear to me

3279
02:46:59,106 --> 02:47:02,742
that we would tend to use
any weapon we had.

3280
02:47:05,179 --> 02:47:07,680
<i>J. Robert Oppenheimer,</i>
<i>the martyr.</i>

3281
02:47:07,713 --> 02:47:10,317
I gave him exactly
what he wanted.

3282
02:47:10,350 --> 02:47:12,618
To be remembered for Trinity,

3283
02:47:12,652 --> 02:47:15,255
not Hiroshima,

3284
02:47:15,289 --> 02:47:17,723
not Nagasaki.

3285
02:47:20,260 --> 02:47:22,962
He should be thanking me.

3286
02:47:22,995 --> 02:47:25,932
Well, he's not.

3287
02:47:27,767 --> 02:47:29,370
Do we still have enough votes,

3288
02:47:29,404 --> 02:47:31,072
or is the crowning moment
of my career

3289
02:47:31,106 --> 02:47:35,243
about to become the most public
humiliation of my life?

3290
02:47:35,276 --> 02:47:37,845
Full Senate's about to vote.

3291
02:47:37,878 --> 02:47:39,046
You'll scrape through.

3292
02:47:39,080 --> 02:47:40,714
Great, then gather
the fucking press.

3293
02:47:40,747 --> 02:47:42,716
Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer.

3294
02:47:42,749 --> 02:47:45,719
This board, having heard
testimony from you

3295
02:47:45,752 --> 02:47:48,889
and many of your current
and former colleagues,

3296
02:47:48,922 --> 02:47:50,924
has come to
the unanimous conclusion

3297
02:47:50,958 --> 02:47:54,061
that you are a loyal citizen.

3298
02:47:55,363 --> 02:47:56,997
However,

3299
02:47:57,030 --> 02:48:00,667
in the light of
your continuing associations

3300
02:48:00,701 --> 02:48:01,969
and disregard

3301
02:48:02,002 --> 02:48:04,139
for the security apparatus
of this country,

3302
02:48:04,172 --> 02:48:07,708
together with your
somewhat disturbing conduct

3303
02:48:07,741 --> 02:48:10,278
on the hydrogen bomb program

3304
02:48:10,311 --> 02:48:11,845
and the regrettable
lack of candor

3305
02:48:11,879 --> 02:48:14,249
in certain of your responses
to this board,

3306
02:48:14,282 --> 02:48:17,152
we have voted two to one

3307
02:48:17,185 --> 02:48:20,288
to deny the renewal
of your security clearance.

3308
02:48:20,321 --> 02:48:23,424
A full written opinion,
with a dissent from Mr. Evans,

3309
02:48:23,458 --> 02:48:26,960
will be issued to the AEC
in the coming days.

3310
02:48:26,994 --> 02:48:28,662
That is all.

3311
02:48:32,433 --> 02:48:33,767
-Gordon...
-Roger.

3312
02:48:38,805 --> 02:48:40,707
<i>Robert.</i>

3313
02:48:41,342 --> 02:48:42,876
Robert.

3314
02:48:45,346 --> 02:48:46,847
Don't...

3315
02:48:49,217 --> 02:48:52,420
Don't take in the sheets.

3316
02:48:53,820 --> 02:48:55,223
Get a picture with him.

3317
02:48:55,256 --> 02:48:56,491
Sir, sir.

3318
02:48:56,524 --> 02:48:58,992
Two minutes. Two minutes.

3319
02:48:59,026 --> 02:49:00,228
-You'll get your shot.
-Please, sir.

3320
02:49:00,261 --> 02:49:01,828
We've been waiting for so long.

3321
02:49:01,862 --> 02:49:02,863
-Evening, sir.
-Come out.

3322
02:49:02,896 --> 02:49:03,931
Sir, sir!

3323
02:49:03,964 --> 02:49:05,300
Is it official?

3324
02:49:07,402 --> 02:49:08,802
Well, there were,

3325
02:49:08,835 --> 02:49:11,972
uh, a couple
of unexpected holdouts.

3326
02:49:16,411 --> 02:49:19,080
I'm denied. Yeah?

3327
02:49:19,113 --> 02:49:21,082
-I'm afraid so, sir.
-All right.

3328
02:49:28,789 --> 02:49:29,856
Who were the holdouts?

3329
02:49:29,890 --> 02:49:32,826
Um, there were three,

3330
02:49:32,859 --> 02:49:35,796
led by the junior senator
from Massachusetts.

3331
02:49:35,829 --> 02:49:37,232
Young guy trying
to make a name for himself,

3332
02:49:37,265 --> 02:49:39,833
didn't like what you did
to Oppenheimer.

3333
02:49:39,866 --> 02:49:41,001
What's his name?

3334
02:49:41,034 --> 02:49:43,238
Uh, Kennedy.

3335
02:49:43,271 --> 02:49:45,073
John F. Kennedy.

3336
02:49:48,543 --> 02:49:49,943
Kitty?

3337
02:49:56,017 --> 02:49:59,421
Did you think that if you
let them tar and feather you,

3338
02:49:59,455 --> 02:50:02,023
that the world
would forgive you?

3339
02:50:05,561 --> 02:50:06,995
It won't.

3340
02:50:09,365 --> 02:50:10,765
We'll see.

3341
02:50:20,542 --> 02:50:22,544
Goddamn it.

3342
02:50:24,079 --> 02:50:27,015
You told me I'd be okay.

3343
02:50:27,048 --> 02:50:29,418
Yeah, well, I didn't have
all the facts, did I?

3344
02:50:29,451 --> 02:50:31,019
Here's a fact.

3345
02:50:31,052 --> 02:50:32,887
President Eisenhower pinned
the Medal of Freedom

3346
02:50:32,920 --> 02:50:34,356
on my chest last year

3347
02:50:34,390 --> 02:50:36,891
'cause I've always done
what's right for this country.

3348
02:50:36,924 --> 02:50:39,428
They don't want me
in the Cabinet room?

3349
02:50:39,461 --> 02:50:41,896
Well, that's... that's fine.

3350
02:50:41,929 --> 02:50:44,266
Maybe they should just
invite Oppenheimer instead.

3351
02:50:44,300 --> 02:50:45,334
Maybe they will.

3352
02:50:46,335 --> 02:50:47,569
I told you,

3353
02:50:47,603 --> 02:50:50,239
he turned the scientists
against me one by one,

3354
02:50:50,272 --> 02:50:52,441
starting with Einstein.
I told you about, uh, Einstein.

3355
02:50:52,474 --> 02:50:53,908
I saw him by the pond.

3356
02:50:53,941 --> 02:50:55,444
You did, but you know, sir,

3357
02:50:55,477 --> 02:50:57,479
since nobody really knows

3358
02:50:57,513 --> 02:50:59,148
what they said
to each other that day,

3359
02:50:59,181 --> 02:51:03,218
is it possible they didn't
talk about you at all?

3360
02:51:03,252 --> 02:51:06,388
Is it possible they spoke
about something, uh,

3361
02:51:06,422 --> 02:51:07,855
more important?

3362
02:51:07,889 --> 02:51:09,325
Mr. Strauss!

3363
02:51:12,661 --> 02:51:15,063
Over here! Mr. Strauss!

3364
02:51:18,200 --> 02:51:21,470
Oh.

3365
02:51:22,638 --> 02:51:23,938
Thank you.

3366
02:51:23,971 --> 02:51:26,475
Albert.

3367
02:51:26,508 --> 02:51:28,477
Ah.

3368
02:51:28,510 --> 02:51:31,012
The man of the moment.

3369
02:51:34,116 --> 02:51:37,486
You once held
a-a reception for me.

3370
02:51:37,519 --> 02:51:39,321
In Berkeley.
You gave me an award.

3371
02:51:39,355 --> 02:51:41,223
-Hmm?
-Yes.

3372
02:51:42,124 --> 02:51:44,526
You all thought that
I had lost the ability

3373
02:51:44,560 --> 02:51:47,496
to understand what I'd started.

3374
02:51:47,529 --> 02:51:50,965
So the award
really wasn't for me,

3375
02:51:50,998 --> 02:51:53,402
it was for all of you, hmm?

3376
02:51:55,270 --> 02:51:57,272
Now it's your turn

3377
02:51:57,306 --> 02:52:02,009
to deal with the consequences
of your achievement.

3378
02:52:02,944 --> 02:52:04,246
And one day,

3379
02:52:04,279 --> 02:52:06,914
when they've
punished you enough...

3380
02:52:08,317 --> 02:52:12,222
...they'll serve you
salmon and potato salad.

3381
02:52:15,958 --> 02:52:17,993
Make speeches...

3382
02:52:19,027 --> 02:52:20,530
<i>...give you a medal.</i>

3383
02:52:22,232 --> 02:52:24,401
Hello, Frank.

3384
02:52:24,434 --> 02:52:25,668
You're happy, I'm happy.

3385
02:52:32,642 --> 02:52:35,978
<i>Pat you on the back,</i>
<i>tell you all is forgiven.</i>

3386
02:52:37,514 --> 02:52:39,915
<i>Just remember...</i>

3387
02:52:40,550 --> 02:52:42,419
<i>...it won't be for you.</i>

3388
02:52:46,689 --> 02:52:48,324
<i>It'll be for them.</i>

3389
02:53:02,472 --> 02:53:04,006
Albert.

3390
02:53:05,241 --> 02:53:08,711
When I came to you
with those calculations,

3391
02:53:08,745 --> 02:53:10,979
we thought we might
start a chain reaction

3392
02:53:11,013 --> 02:53:14,484
that would destroy
the entire world.

3393
02:53:14,517 --> 02:53:17,986
Mm, I remember it well.

3394
02:53:18,020 --> 02:53:20,089
What of it?

3395
02:53:22,725 --> 02:53:24,461
I believe we did.